1 00:00:30,730 --> 00:00:28,750 archangels ghosts and Bigfoot oh my it's 2 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:30,740 just another night for Supernatural 3 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:33,890 girls real stories real answers to 4 00:00:38,799 --> 00:00:36,290 life's biggest supernatural mysteries 5 00:00:41,530 --> 00:00:38,809 and now for another exciting interview 6 00:00:44,290 --> 00:00:41,540 with Errol experts in this world and 7 00:00:47,319 --> 00:00:44,300 others here's your host paranormal 8 00:00:47,650 --> 00:00:47,329 researcher Patricia Baker on the one the 9 00:01:06,340 --> 00:00:47,660 only 10 00:01:09,050 --> 00:01:06,350 [Music] 11 00:01:11,660 --> 00:01:09,060 welcome everyone to a very special 12 00:01:14,749 --> 00:01:11,670 episode of Supernatural girls radio as 13 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:14,759 you know this is where paranormalist 14 00:01:20,389 --> 00:01:18,479 normal but tonight we are taking a bit 15 00:01:22,010 --> 00:01:20,399 of a break from that because we have a 16 00:01:24,649 --> 00:01:22,020 very important guests that we're 17 00:01:28,130 --> 00:01:24,659 bringing on Robert Abbott alo and he is 18 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:28,140 an expert in Lyme disease and autoimmune 19 00:01:32,749 --> 00:01:31,050 disease and he is one of my personal 20 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:32,759 favorite people in the world he's very 21 00:01:38,570 --> 00:01:35,850 devoted to his practice to his patients 22 00:01:40,490 --> 00:01:38,580 and he has a lot to learn about Lyme 23 00:01:42,740 --> 00:01:40,500 disease and autoimmune so in a few 24 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:42,750 minutes we are going to bring him on the 25 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:46,110 show and get ready to learn a lot and 26 00:01:51,980 --> 00:01:48,960 hopefully increase the power of your own 27 00:01:53,630 --> 00:01:51,990 health and be self empowered with your 28 00:01:56,990 --> 00:01:53,640 own health so that's what this is all 29 00:01:59,480 --> 00:01:57,000 about tonight and before we introduce 30 00:02:02,540 --> 00:01:59,490 them though of course PK we've got to 31 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:02,550 talk to you so what's going on with the 32 00:02:08,449 --> 00:02:05,130 numbers what's happening you have to 33 00:02:11,330 --> 00:02:08,459 take a look at November 22nd is a seven 34 00:02:13,370 --> 00:02:11,340 universal Day this is very telling eight 35 00:02:15,140 --> 00:02:13,380 because seven makes most of us overly 36 00:02:17,540 --> 00:02:15,150 tired and suspicious and all that good 37 00:02:19,250 --> 00:02:17,550 stuff but you're gonna find that most of 38 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:19,260 us did not sleep well last night 39 00:02:23,300 --> 00:02:21,120 that there is going to be a lot of 40 00:02:25,130 --> 00:02:23,310 tossing and turning that had gone on a 41 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:25,140 lot of dreaming that's going to have 42 00:02:29,390 --> 00:02:27,510 taken place and it's going to put things 43 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:29,400 someone to the negative side and create 44 00:02:33,740 --> 00:02:31,650 some fears and fantasies because that's 45 00:02:37,610 --> 00:02:33,750 what happens when we dream and it's that 46 00:02:40,580 --> 00:02:37,620 heavy but it's going to kind of give us 47 00:02:42,380 --> 00:02:40,590 a push the holiday is coming so to 48 00:02:45,470 --> 00:02:42,390 assist the holiday and not be so 49 00:02:47,630 --> 00:02:45,480 exhausted take fantasies and visions and 50 00:02:50,780 --> 00:02:47,640 put them together by assisting yourself 51 00:02:52,130 --> 00:02:50,790 doing some things ahead of time make 52 00:02:54,710 --> 00:02:52,140 your plans for your Thanksgiving 53 00:02:57,559 --> 00:02:54,720 gathering do some of the things you can 54 00:02:59,300 --> 00:02:57,569 do ahead bake etc you don't get these 55 00:03:01,040 --> 00:02:59,310 things out of the way but doing what you 56 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:01,050 can in advance will allow you and your 57 00:03:06,890 --> 00:03:04,050 family to certainly enjoy the day with 58 00:03:08,509 --> 00:03:06,900 less stress that sounds like a plan 59 00:03:11,420 --> 00:03:08,519 because it's always stressful 60 00:03:12,050 --> 00:03:11,430 oh gosh you got a Thanksgiving such a 61 00:03:14,210 --> 00:03:12,060 complicated 62 00:03:15,650 --> 00:03:14,220 you've got to make all these things we 63 00:03:21,820 --> 00:03:15,660 don't have to but it's more fun if you 64 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:21,830 do I know it takes hours and days and 65 00:03:24,559 --> 00:03:24,090 then everybody's done in like ten 66 00:03:26,990 --> 00:03:24,569 minutes 67 00:03:29,449 --> 00:03:27,000 you know you know it takes you two days 68 00:03:32,210 --> 00:03:29,459 to prepare prepare it 15 minutes eat it 69 00:03:34,790 --> 00:03:32,220 but I was gonna also add looking forward 70 00:03:36,530 --> 00:03:34,800 to the holidays let's make some plans to 71 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:36,540 offer a special reading or sessions 72 00:03:41,930 --> 00:03:39,510 either of your friends or family 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101 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:48,840 missed this show and you want to pass it 102 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:50,130 on to a friend do you want to hear it 103 00:04:55,070 --> 00:04:53,130 yourself again you can get it from our 104 00:04:58,010 --> 00:04:55,080 archives I will be putting it on both 105 00:05:00,920 --> 00:04:58,020 Facebook pages and it'll also be on our 106 00:05:04,430 --> 00:05:00,930 website so this is a very special show 107 00:05:05,930 --> 00:05:04,440 again we're doing this as a kind of a 108 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:05,940 lead-in to the holidays to help 109 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:08,610 everybody enjoy them help everybody with 110 00:05:12,650 --> 00:05:10,530 their health as much as we possibly can 111 00:05:14,210 --> 00:05:12,660 and of course we always recommend you 112 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:14,220 check with your own doctor your own 113 00:05:18,469 --> 00:05:16,320 practitioner the information that we're 114 00:05:20,779 --> 00:05:18,479 giving today is just that information we 115 00:05:22,730 --> 00:05:20,789 are not diagnosing anything or 116 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:22,740 prescribing anything but we're having a 117 00:05:25,669 --> 00:05:25,050 very interesting discussion in a couple 118 00:05:29,239 --> 00:05:25,679 minutes 119 00:05:31,549 --> 00:05:29,249 with Robert about hello and he is going 120 00:05:33,589 --> 00:05:31,559 to share some very interesting facts 121 00:05:36,199 --> 00:05:33,599 with us these are things we really need 122 00:05:40,639 --> 00:05:36,209 to know because autoimmune disease in 123 00:05:42,529 --> 00:05:40,649 this country alone I was reading there's 124 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:42,539 50 million people that they're 125 00:05:47,989 --> 00:05:44,849 estimating that right now are suffering 126 00:05:50,359 --> 00:05:47,999 from autoimmune now with Lyme I'm hoping 127 00:05:52,129 --> 00:05:50,369 Robert has more current statistics in me 128 00:05:53,809 --> 00:05:52,139 because the CDC is downplaying it 129 00:05:56,899 --> 00:05:53,819 tremendously and saying there's only 130 00:05:58,369 --> 00:05:56,909 about oh I don't know 300,000 cases or 131 00:06:01,909 --> 00:05:58,379 something crazy like that which I know 132 00:06:03,949 --> 00:06:01,919 is wrong that number is way too low and 133 00:06:05,119 --> 00:06:03,959 I can tell you it's way too low there's 134 00:06:07,219 --> 00:06:05,129 something wrong with the way they're 135 00:06:08,779 --> 00:06:07,229 gathering their statistics the way 136 00:06:10,189 --> 00:06:08,789 they're doing their tests we're gonna 137 00:06:12,259 --> 00:06:10,199 hear all about that from Robert in a 138 00:06:14,329 --> 00:06:12,269 minute but these are critical issues 139 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:14,339 Lyme disease doesn't just make your life 140 00:06:17,989 --> 00:06:16,289 miserable anymore it can kill you and 141 00:06:22,009 --> 00:06:17,999 certainly that's true with autoimmune 142 00:06:23,809 --> 00:06:22,019 diseases as well so we need all the 143 00:06:25,339 --> 00:06:23,819 information we can get so we can make 144 00:06:27,319 --> 00:06:25,349 the best healthcare decisions for 145 00:06:29,659 --> 00:06:27,329 ourselves and if you have one of these 146 00:06:32,209 --> 00:06:29,669 horrible diseases hopefully this show is 147 00:06:34,489 --> 00:06:32,219 going to be a breakthrough for you so 148 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:34,499 let me introduce our guest I've got a 149 00:06:39,649 --> 00:06:37,289 wonderful little bio here that I want to 150 00:06:42,439 --> 00:06:39,659 read to you because Robert again is a 151 00:06:43,909 --> 00:06:42,449 real stellar person in this field and 152 00:06:46,659 --> 00:06:43,919 I'm so happy to have him on the show 153 00:06:49,179 --> 00:06:46,669 he's a licensed acupuncturist and 154 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:49,189 herbalist he has training in naturopathy 155 00:06:54,679 --> 00:06:52,649 homeopathy and nutrition and he brings a 156 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:54,689 wealth of knowledge experience and 157 00:06:59,779 --> 00:06:57,289 training to the natural healing arts of 158 00:07:02,179 --> 00:06:59,789 acupuncture naturopathy homeopathy 159 00:07:03,259 --> 00:07:02,189 herbology and the teaching of yoga and 160 00:07:06,309 --> 00:07:03,269 meditation 161 00:07:09,859 --> 00:07:06,319 he began his healing arts training in 162 00:07:11,809 --> 00:07:09,869 1973 with the study of meditation and he 163 00:07:14,559 --> 00:07:11,819 also learned the power of this ancient 164 00:07:16,819 --> 00:07:14,569 healing art when he had his own powerful 165 00:07:20,049 --> 00:07:16,829 transformational healing experience 166 00:07:22,669 --> 00:07:20,059 after that he began a decade of 167 00:07:24,919 --> 00:07:22,679 extensive travel and studies with 168 00:07:28,459 --> 00:07:24,929 numerous spiritual teachers and healers 169 00:07:30,169 --> 00:07:28,469 from around the world now also he this 170 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:30,179 is incredible stuff he's developed his 171 00:07:35,749 --> 00:07:32,610 own system of healing including 172 00:07:38,810 --> 00:07:35,759 clearpoint acupuncture neuro clear and 173 00:07:41,210 --> 00:07:38,820 pulse clear these are all leading-edge 174 00:07:44,030 --> 00:07:41,220 that he has devised himself they are 175 00:07:50,660 --> 00:07:44,040 tremendously effective Robert welcome to 176 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:50,670 the show thank you so much to talk about 177 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:53,520 yes how did you get into this how did 178 00:07:57,620 --> 00:07:55,410 you make this turn into the healing arts 179 00:08:00,560 --> 00:07:57,630 yeah I wanted to save this story for you 180 00:08:03,860 --> 00:08:00,570 you asked me before yeah well I 181 00:08:05,900 --> 00:08:03,870 originally when I was in college I was 182 00:08:08,660 --> 00:08:05,910 going to school to become a lawyer and 183 00:08:10,670 --> 00:08:08,670 about somewhere about the second year 184 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:10,680 maybe a year and a half you know the 185 00:08:16,250 --> 00:08:13,290 stress of it all I was I was you know 186 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:16,260 studying meditation and doing yoga first 187 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:18,450 Ostrom actually to ever open up in the 188 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:20,910 United States people don't realize about 189 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:24,690 you know yoga and you know meditation is 190 00:08:30,500 --> 00:08:27,690 that just like we sent you know 191 00:08:32,750 --> 00:08:30,510 Christian you know priests and stuff to 192 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:32,760 uh you know third-world countries etc to 193 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:36,530 you know introduce them to that religion 194 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:39,090 that's what they did they sent people 195 00:08:43,250 --> 00:08:41,370 over here and dr. Mishra was one of the 196 00:08:45,710 --> 00:08:43,260 first they came to this country opened 197 00:08:48,140 --> 00:08:45,720 up an ashram and so I was studying at 198 00:08:50,420 --> 00:08:48,150 his ashram and he was one of those 199 00:08:53,830 --> 00:08:50,430 teachers that can do Shakti pot which is 200 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:53,840 means he can transfer the experience of 201 00:08:59,450 --> 00:08:56,850 connecting with God to you while you're 202 00:09:01,130 --> 00:08:59,460 in his class and so you know people who 203 00:09:04,780 --> 00:09:01,140 know that you go to his class you wait 204 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:04,790 for that moment where he chooses you and 205 00:09:11,900 --> 00:09:08,130 you get the Bliss so I was studying 206 00:09:14,870 --> 00:09:11,910 there it was called the Ananda ashram in 207 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:14,880 Monroe New York and a doctor from 208 00:09:24,740 --> 00:09:20,370 California had come and this was in 76 209 00:09:26,300 --> 00:09:24,750 77 like 77 1977 and so acupuncture was 210 00:09:28,310 --> 00:09:26,310 not something that anyone had really 211 00:09:32,660 --> 00:09:28,320 ever heard of I certainly didn't hear of 212 00:09:34,850 --> 00:09:32,670 it but this you know guest doctor had it 213 00:09:36,350 --> 00:09:34,860 was a beautiful fall day you know the 214 00:09:38,210 --> 00:09:36,360 leaves coming down we were next to the 215 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:38,220 pond and it was the Sun which I was 216 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:40,590 really warm and they think you know this 217 00:09:45,530 --> 00:09:42,330 she put this guy down on a blanket 218 00:09:47,150 --> 00:09:45,540 outside and did some acupuncture well 219 00:09:49,700 --> 00:09:47,160 you know now we you know we understand 220 00:09:52,580 --> 00:09:49,710 acupuncture we've had acupuncture but we 221 00:09:57,140 --> 00:09:52,590 just stared at this guy for like 30min 222 00:10:00,320 --> 00:09:57,150 like we were watching TV Wow needles in 223 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:00,330 him you know we just stared at it was 224 00:10:03,890 --> 00:10:02,370 the strangest thing I didn't think of it 225 00:10:06,050 --> 00:10:03,900 you know at the time I just thought oh 226 00:10:08,090 --> 00:10:06,060 my God he's got needles stuck in him and 227 00:10:11,390 --> 00:10:08,100 he's not you know he's not upset he's 228 00:10:13,130 --> 00:10:11,400 not crying or whatever ya know and so 229 00:10:14,540 --> 00:10:13,140 afterwards you know I'm walking next 230 00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:14,550 when we're walking down this you know 231 00:10:19,610 --> 00:10:16,860 nice trail on the leg I said what was 232 00:10:21,710 --> 00:10:19,620 that like they said well I feel I feel 233 00:10:23,750 --> 00:10:21,720 calm I feel centered I 234 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:23,760 I just feel balanced and relaxed and 235 00:10:29,930 --> 00:10:26,730 those words kind of pour it over me like 236 00:10:35,780 --> 00:10:29,940 you know just like ambrosia like really 237 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:35,790 you can have that feeling and the thing 238 00:10:41,660 --> 00:10:39,120 was I never for one second thought I 239 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:41,670 want to get acupuncture that that didn't 240 00:10:46,460 --> 00:10:44,370 occur to me at all it just came over me 241 00:10:49,730 --> 00:10:46,470 like that's what I want to do for people 242 00:10:52,250 --> 00:10:49,740 I want to do acupuncture so I went back 243 00:10:53,870 --> 00:10:52,260 you know went to my um you know guidance 244 00:10:55,820 --> 00:10:53,880 counselor or whatever ever called in 245 00:10:57,680 --> 00:10:55,830 college I said listen I I need to change 246 00:10:59,360 --> 00:10:57,690 my major I need to I want to be an 247 00:11:01,520 --> 00:10:59,370 acupuncturist because she looked at me 248 00:11:03,890 --> 00:11:01,530 like I was a little crazy yes what I 249 00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:03,900 want to do so of course I I spent six 250 00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:05,760 years in college and you know instead of 251 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:08,160 the standard for because I had to catch 252 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:09,930 up on all the stuff that I wasn't doing 253 00:11:14,510 --> 00:11:12,810 but that was the genesis and I I really 254 00:11:16,460 --> 00:11:14,520 didn't get acupuncture or see any 255 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:16,470 acupuncture till after I'd finished 256 00:11:22,310 --> 00:11:19,770 college and went to Boston and you know 257 00:11:23,630 --> 00:11:22,320 to go to school there and even my first 258 00:11:25,730 --> 00:11:23,640 year school I don't think I had 259 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:25,740 acupuncture it was just I wanted to do 260 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:28,170 acupuncture so that's how that's what 261 00:11:33,290 --> 00:11:29,930 started the whole ball rolling 262 00:11:35,300 --> 00:11:33,300 incredible that experience you you know 263 00:11:37,460 --> 00:11:35,310 you're talking about I I get that bio I 264 00:11:43,340 --> 00:11:37,470 remember it's from somewhere out of a 265 00:11:44,660 --> 00:11:43,350 website or something buddy so I I you 266 00:11:47,870 --> 00:11:44,670 know when you say oh I had this 267 00:11:50,180 --> 00:11:47,880 transformative experience well you know 268 00:11:51,620 --> 00:11:50,190 why they get into this was really you 269 00:11:55,130 --> 00:11:51,630 know because of that experience with 270 00:11:58,010 --> 00:11:55,140 seeing acupuncture but prior to that way 271 00:12:00,530 --> 00:11:58,020 back when Transcendental Meditation so 272 00:12:01,510 --> 00:12:00,540 this was when I was 16 years old I had 273 00:12:05,150 --> 00:12:01,520 an ulcer 274 00:12:06,530 --> 00:12:05,160 very stressful you know family life and 275 00:12:09,050 --> 00:12:06,540 school life 276 00:12:10,580 --> 00:12:09,060 and friend you know is eating mash but 277 00:12:11,450 --> 00:12:10,590 this is what they have mashed potatoes 278 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:11,460 and milk 279 00:12:17,690 --> 00:12:14,730 mmm and butter yeah when you had also 280 00:12:18,950 --> 00:12:17,700 like which is really kind of the worst 281 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:18,960 thing you could do to yourself but 282 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:20,880 that's what they recommended it wasn't 283 00:12:25,220 --> 00:12:23,010 getting better and so friend of mine 284 00:12:26,450 --> 00:12:25,230 kind of hippy kind of guy he came up to 285 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:26,460 me said oh you know what maybe you 286 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:30,450 should try meditation so I went and to 287 00:12:36,380 --> 00:12:33,510 do the TM and that's when you got a 288 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:36,390 flower a piece of fruit a white 289 00:12:46,010 --> 00:12:39,570 handkerchief and 35 bucks now I think 290 00:12:47,900 --> 00:12:46,020 it's you know the flower you pay you pay 291 00:12:50,090 --> 00:12:47,910 them the money you give them the flower 292 00:12:51,740 --> 00:12:50,100 yeah you go there you do this whole 293 00:12:53,810 --> 00:12:51,750 thing now it's like I don't know it's 294 00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:53,820 like thousands of dollars to learn what 295 00:12:57,500 --> 00:12:55,680 I learned but here's that here's the 296 00:13:00,050 --> 00:12:57,510 part where about the transformational 297 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:00,060 experience is you know I went to the 298 00:13:03,770 --> 00:13:01,650 thing they gave you you know they give 299 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:03,780 you a mantra they show you how to you 300 00:13:09,860 --> 00:13:07,110 know you use the mantra and meditate put 301 00:13:17,380 --> 00:13:09,870 me in a room close my eyes I start doing 302 00:13:20,540 --> 00:13:17,390 the mantra and white light it was like 303 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:20,550 like holy cow and I'm like I was there 304 00:13:24,770 --> 00:13:22,770 and I'm just like in this this ecstasy 305 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:24,780 experience and this was you know I went 306 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:26,370 like oh my god I don't like it let 307 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:28,860 anybody know why my secret mantra is 308 00:13:34,340 --> 00:13:30,930 even after all these years but I you 309 00:13:38,810 --> 00:13:34,350 know I'm doing my mantra can't share it 310 00:13:40,550 --> 00:13:38,820 you know and and then the guy comes in I 311 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:40,560 thought wow that was like two seconds 312 00:13:44,390 --> 00:13:42,210 and he says okay well you know that was 313 00:13:46,580 --> 00:13:44,400 your 20 minutes how was it and I told 314 00:13:50,450 --> 00:13:46,590 the guy what you know what happened he 315 00:13:52,910 --> 00:13:50,460 goes he goes he looks at me goes oh no 316 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:52,920 you you have to meditate for 20 years to 317 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:54,690 have that experience and I said but I 318 00:13:59,390 --> 00:13:57,330 just had he goes he just couldn't get 319 00:14:01,010 --> 00:13:59,400 around it he says I I don't know what to 320 00:14:03,650 --> 00:14:01,020 tell you and of course that's a weird 321 00:14:06,020 --> 00:14:03,660 thing to hear but you know so that 322 00:14:07,670 --> 00:14:06,030 started me and I literally just so 323 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:07,680 people want to know about just 324 00:14:12,530 --> 00:14:10,860 meditation I did that meditation 20 325 00:14:16,790 --> 00:14:12,540 minutes in the morning 20 minutes in the 326 00:14:19,340 --> 00:14:16,800 afternoon after two weeks no ulcer gone 327 00:14:20,329 --> 00:14:19,350 god I mean I think I worked at a 328 00:14:22,249 --> 00:14:20,339 steakhouse 329 00:14:23,780 --> 00:14:22,259 I used to hide you know my time to do my 330 00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:23,790 meditation I used to hide behind the 331 00:14:32,809 --> 00:14:27,209 stacks of you know potatoes in the back 332 00:14:36,049 --> 00:14:32,819 room but I've you my mantra and I just 333 00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:36,059 did it and and so even today you know 334 00:14:40,460 --> 00:14:37,680 things get a little bit you know 335 00:14:43,429 --> 00:14:40,470 overwhelming I will I will go back to 336 00:14:45,739 --> 00:14:43,439 that it's a great tool that's the 337 00:14:47,749 --> 00:14:45,749 genesis that's the genesis great and the 338 00:14:49,610 --> 00:14:47,759 mind-body connection clearly we can't 339 00:14:51,439 --> 00:14:49,620 ignore it even though we we do want to 340 00:14:54,439 --> 00:14:51,449 know from you about treatment and things 341 00:14:57,170 --> 00:14:54,449 that you use for these two categories of 342 00:14:59,269 --> 00:14:57,180 illnesses that the mind-body connection 343 00:15:01,879 --> 00:14:59,279 is paramount and we're gonna get more 344 00:15:04,670 --> 00:15:01,889 into that too but for now I know you've 345 00:15:06,829 --> 00:15:04,680 had some good success with patience and 346 00:15:08,689 --> 00:15:06,839 let's start off with Lyme if we could 347 00:15:11,059 --> 00:15:08,699 because I know you have a perspective on 348 00:15:12,980 --> 00:15:11,069 this you take a look at Lyme and you 349 00:15:14,569 --> 00:15:12,990 take a look at the patient what what do 350 00:15:17,420 --> 00:15:14,579 you see what do you see happening with 351 00:15:19,999 --> 00:15:17,430 Lyme do you see more cases of it more 352 00:15:22,730 --> 00:15:20,009 severe severity with it I mean what do 353 00:15:25,129 --> 00:15:22,740 you what do you sing today well you know 354 00:15:27,650 --> 00:15:25,139 Lyme is a very old disease they they 355 00:15:30,110 --> 00:15:27,660 literally found Borrelia which is the 356 00:15:33,259 --> 00:15:30,120 the bacteria that causes Lyme disease in 357 00:15:36,230 --> 00:15:33,269 the Paleolithic guide it was frozen this 358 00:15:38,210 --> 00:15:36,240 is about 10 years ago Wow yeah they 359 00:15:40,460 --> 00:15:38,220 found them they found the Borrelia so 360 00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:40,470 it's really an you know it's an older 361 00:15:45,530 --> 00:15:42,720 disease and and that's an important 362 00:15:48,049 --> 00:15:45,540 thing to understand because I mean you 363 00:15:50,989 --> 00:15:48,059 always have mutations and of course with 364 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:50,999 antibiotics you know you know every 365 00:15:56,989 --> 00:15:53,610 bacteria becomes resistant it mutates so 366 00:15:59,210 --> 00:15:56,999 it has become a stronger strain you know 367 00:16:01,220 --> 00:15:59,220 since they first started diagnosis and 368 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:01,230 treating it with antibiotics but it has 369 00:16:09,199 --> 00:16:03,569 been around for a long time and just 370 00:16:11,809 --> 00:16:09,209 like any any infectious disease groups 371 00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:11,819 of people people become immune to it and 372 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:14,399 then some people aren't immune to it so 373 00:16:19,610 --> 00:16:16,290 there's one reason why some people just 374 00:16:21,829 --> 00:16:19,620 they get bit think of Borrelia they have 375 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:21,839 a fever it feels like a cold and then it 376 00:16:26,869 --> 00:16:23,730 goes away and there's there's nothing 377 00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:26,879 really left you know there and then 378 00:16:33,010 --> 00:16:29,040 other people it is as you said just 379 00:16:37,390 --> 00:16:33,020 life-threatening life-threatening 380 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:37,400 has to do with the person well are they 381 00:16:43,420 --> 00:16:39,290 toxic are they exposed to a lot of 382 00:16:45,550 --> 00:16:43,430 chemicals are they you know emotionally 383 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:45,560 stressed is there a lot of you know 384 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:48,410 things to deal with there do they have 385 00:16:55,030 --> 00:16:51,610 other diseases that you know that also 386 00:16:58,420 --> 00:16:55,040 strain the immune system and all those 387 00:17:02,470 --> 00:16:58,430 things play into how a person responds 388 00:17:08,860 --> 00:17:02,480 to to Lyme you know to Borrelia and all 389 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:08,870 co-infections yes now today it seems 390 00:17:12,550 --> 00:17:10,850 like the Western blot test which is the 391 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:12,560 accepted traditional test is not all 392 00:17:15,940 --> 00:17:13,850 that accurate at least that's what I'm 393 00:17:18,340 --> 00:17:15,950 hearing but there are tests that are 394 00:17:19,930 --> 00:17:18,350 more accurate than Western blot like I 395 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:19,940 genex has one that I hear is 396 00:17:26,590 --> 00:17:22,160 leading-edge what are your thoughts on 397 00:17:29,230 --> 00:17:26,600 the tests no the Western blot is it's 398 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:29,240 it's is it's very accurate it's as 399 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:38,690 accurate as a coin toss the CDC remember 400 00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:40,730 how long ago they might have taken it 401 00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:43,430 down but where they were training 402 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:46,280 doctors I mean within a decade you know 403 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:48,650 make seven eight nine years ago there 404 00:17:52,630 --> 00:17:50,510 was a training for doctors I took it for 405 00:17:55,180 --> 00:17:52,640 how to treat Lyme disease what are you 406 00:17:57,850 --> 00:17:55,190 supposed to do and it's a very straight 407 00:18:01,660 --> 00:17:57,860 that's before even the post sequelae 408 00:18:03,490 --> 00:18:01,670 Lyme diagnosis that they kind of 409 00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:03,500 acquiesced to so that people get a 410 00:18:08,110 --> 00:18:05,720 little bit more antibiotics for more 411 00:18:11,050 --> 00:18:08,120 than the for the three to four standard 412 00:18:13,870 --> 00:18:11,060 weeks but what they said in in that 413 00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:13,880 meeting was two doctors is do not use 414 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:16,160 the test you have too many false 415 00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:19,130 positives too many false negatives and 416 00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:20,960 so you're either treating someone who 417 00:18:23,740 --> 00:18:22,400 shouldn't be treated or you're not 418 00:18:26,890 --> 00:18:23,750 treating someone who should be treated 419 00:18:30,220 --> 00:18:26,900 and so their recommendation was use the 420 00:18:32,260 --> 00:18:30,230 symptoms and I think that's still even 421 00:18:34,690 --> 00:18:32,270 in for people who don't do muscle 422 00:18:39,490 --> 00:18:34,700 testing or any other kind of you know 423 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:39,500 evie testing that's the standard as you 424 00:18:44,260 --> 00:18:41,810 want to follow the symptoms now what are 425 00:18:47,230 --> 00:18:44,270 the symptoms that you see for Lyme well 426 00:18:50,530 --> 00:18:47,240 the symptoms are going to be well well 427 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:50,540 lime leads to all symptoms and that's 428 00:18:54,310 --> 00:18:52,250 just the fact that someone comes in 429 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:54,320 I've had people sit there literally for 430 00:18:59,530 --> 00:18:57,410 now and a half and just go over I have 431 00:19:01,720 --> 00:18:59,540 this symptom I have crawlies under the 432 00:19:02,620 --> 00:19:01,730 skin I have headaches I got fatigue I 433 00:19:04,990 --> 00:19:02,630 have joint pain 434 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:05,000 I have rashes I have even the bull's eye 435 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:07,130 which is used to be a they used to say 436 00:19:11,650 --> 00:19:08,810 well if you see a bull's eye that was in 437 00:19:12,970 --> 00:19:11,660 that meeting that's the classic oh then 438 00:19:15,910 --> 00:19:12,980 you want to treat them right away but 439 00:19:18,370 --> 00:19:15,920 the bull's eye doesn't always show up it 440 00:19:20,770 --> 00:19:18,380 doesn't show up in fact I mean in my 441 00:19:24,790 --> 00:19:20,780 practice I may see it you know one out 442 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:24,800 of you know 20 30 40 times mm-hmm but I 443 00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:26,210 do see rashes 444 00:19:30,850 --> 00:19:28,640 you know joint pain fatigue this you 445 00:19:34,060 --> 00:19:30,860 know the cold that never ends the 446 00:19:35,740 --> 00:19:34,070 exhaustion that never ends um then other 447 00:19:38,890 --> 00:19:35,750 things start getting triggered anything 448 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:38,900 that they had before is now worse and I 449 00:19:44,530 --> 00:19:42,530 say this is what I like to look at it 450 00:19:47,410 --> 00:19:44,540 because I have suffered severely well 451 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:47,420 I'm out of the 25 years that I've been 452 00:19:51,790 --> 00:19:49,490 treating Lyme disease I started in 453 00:19:56,050 --> 00:19:51,800 Nantucket which at the time that I was 454 00:19:58,660 --> 00:19:56,060 there was a hotbed of Lyme disease and I 455 00:20:02,500 --> 00:19:58,670 think there's a gift to it there's a 456 00:20:04,180 --> 00:20:02,510 gift that it will go to every part of 457 00:20:06,430 --> 00:20:04,190 your body that is weakest 458 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:06,440 so whatever disease you have had 459 00:20:12,210 --> 00:20:08,810 whatever your genetic disposition is to 460 00:20:16,060 --> 00:20:12,220 have a disease autoimmune disorders 461 00:20:19,090 --> 00:20:16,070 anything it will go there it will find 462 00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:19,100 that place and I say it's up to us to go 463 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:21,230 all right let me look at that let me 464 00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:22,970 take care of it let me fix that if 465 00:20:26,740 --> 00:20:25,310 you're eating junk food and let me tell 466 00:20:29,470 --> 00:20:26,750 you that's one of the first things I 467 00:20:33,430 --> 00:20:29,480 tell people sugar Borrelia love sugar 468 00:20:36,010 --> 00:20:33,440 Wow your body doesn't like sugar and in 469 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:36,020 debilitating drug you know we're not 470 00:20:41,980 --> 00:20:39,050 William Duff T road - you know the sugar 471 00:20:45,370 --> 00:20:41,990 blues I mean way back in the 70s might 472 00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:45,380 even be copyrighted in the 60s and he 473 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:48,590 delineating long ago that sugar which we 474 00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:51,050 now cane sugar good old-fashioned cane 475 00:20:55,300 --> 00:20:53,120 sugar which now is sold in a health food 476 00:20:59,190 --> 00:20:55,310 store as a health as a health food 477 00:21:00,920 --> 00:20:59,200 product because you know better for you 478 00:21:03,650 --> 00:21:00,930 it's good for 479 00:21:07,010 --> 00:21:03,660 is what it's it's it's just like you 480 00:21:09,410 --> 00:21:07,020 can't cancer and Borrelia love sugar and 481 00:21:11,690 --> 00:21:09,420 of course your body becomes depleted and 482 00:21:14,060 --> 00:21:11,700 two billion debilitated from sugar and 483 00:21:16,010 --> 00:21:14,070 so I tell people don't do that that's 484 00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:16,020 that's not a good thing and so people 485 00:21:22,220 --> 00:21:18,240 who are you know junk food junkies 486 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:22,230 they're like what I can't have you know 487 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:24,210 you cannot refined sugar I can't have 488 00:21:29,060 --> 00:21:26,850 refined bread I can't have this well you 489 00:21:31,220 --> 00:21:29,070 know least not until you get better and 490 00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:31,230 hopefully by then you know the Borelli 491 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:32,910 is taught you a lesson that these are 492 00:21:38,780 --> 00:21:34,530 not good for your body things that are 493 00:21:40,850 --> 00:21:38,790 not good for your body support just the 494 00:21:42,740 --> 00:21:40,860 destruction that lime will you know 495 00:21:45,620 --> 00:21:42,750 present to you if you just let it go 496 00:21:48,530 --> 00:21:45,630 unchecked right so diet is very 497 00:21:50,210 --> 00:21:48,540 important in this so that's one of the 498 00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:50,220 first things you discuss with people is 499 00:21:54,770 --> 00:21:52,320 if there are sugar junkies or if they're 500 00:21:56,810 --> 00:21:54,780 eating foods that isn't really good for 501 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:56,820 them is that like a step by step that 502 00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:57,930 you go through cuz I know we had a 503 00:22:04,190 --> 00:22:00,320 question from somebody they grab that 504 00:22:06,940 --> 00:22:04,200 about this very thing is there an order 505 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:06,950 to the way that you address getting well 506 00:22:11,420 --> 00:22:09,690 from Lyme disease or even know how to 507 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:11,430 immune I mean is there something that 508 00:22:16,250 --> 00:22:14,250 you recommend that people do first 509 00:22:18,020 --> 00:22:16,260 second third how do you handle that 510 00:22:19,850 --> 00:22:18,030 that's a good question yeah okay well 511 00:22:22,010 --> 00:22:19,860 the three stages you know I always 512 00:22:27,530 --> 00:22:22,020 present this the three stages of 513 00:22:31,660 --> 00:22:27,540 treating Lyme is first stage suppress I 514 00:22:35,090 --> 00:22:31,670 use the word suppress think about herpes 515 00:22:37,070 --> 00:22:35,100 that you never get rid of the virus you 516 00:22:38,660 --> 00:22:37,080 know when you get stressed when you get 517 00:22:40,910 --> 00:22:38,670 a call that's why they call cold signs 518 00:22:43,340 --> 00:22:40,920 when your immune system is down you know 519 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:43,350 that herpes virus will come out but when 520 00:22:46,970 --> 00:22:45,210 your immune system strong well you don't 521 00:22:49,940 --> 00:22:46,980 know you have herpes this it's not an 522 00:22:51,890 --> 00:22:49,950 issue Borelli is very similar in that it 523 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:51,900 will stay in your system it can form 524 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:55,170 assists it can form a biofilm and and 525 00:23:01,490 --> 00:22:58,410 that system biofilm the Borrelia goes 526 00:23:03,950 --> 00:23:01,500 into when you become strong enough and 527 00:23:06,110 --> 00:23:03,960 you could you could dissolve those cysts 528 00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:06,120 and biofilms but that's the mechanism 529 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:07,710 where it hides in your body that's 530 00:23:14,140 --> 00:23:09,810 another reason why using antibiotics is 531 00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:14,150 not a very useful thing to do especially 532 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:17,120 unless it's the first you know couple of 533 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:19,250 weeks the first time you've been bit 534 00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:21,890 I'll tell people go straight to the you 535 00:23:28,030 --> 00:23:24,400 know your doctor get the docs II do that 536 00:23:30,190 --> 00:23:28,040 not my favorite thing to say but that's 537 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:30,200 it's an effective thing and it's 538 00:23:38,110 --> 00:23:34,450 inexpensive to doxycycline is one of the 539 00:23:40,270 --> 00:23:38,120 your insurer you know right probably got 540 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:40,280 a nice little copay so I think that's a 541 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:43,730 reasonable thing to do but after that 542 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:46,970 now the Borrelia is deep in your system 543 00:23:52,060 --> 00:23:49,490 it has the ability to hide it kind of 544 00:23:54,250 --> 00:23:52,070 changes its DNA and hides from your 545 00:23:56,350 --> 00:23:54,260 immune system and so what we need to do 546 00:23:59,470 --> 00:23:56,360 is we need to get your immune system to 547 00:24:02,620 --> 00:23:59,480 see the Borrelia the analogy always make 548 00:24:05,380 --> 00:24:02,630 is your your immune system is in a dark 549 00:24:08,050 --> 00:24:05,390 room and it has a bat and you have all 550 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:08,060 your precious things in that room that 551 00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:11,450 you can't see but the Borrelia has night 552 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:13,910 goggles on and can see you so you start 553 00:24:18,690 --> 00:24:15,710 swinging your immune system starts 554 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:18,700 swinging and this is the onset of 555 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:21,650 autoimmune disease you start swinging so 556 00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:23,210 instead of actually attacking the 557 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:25,520 bacteria that you're after you're 558 00:24:29,650 --> 00:24:27,650 breaking your favorite china you're 559 00:24:31,690 --> 00:24:29,660 destroying your liver you're destroying 560 00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:31,700 your you know pancreas I went very 561 00:24:35,980 --> 00:24:34,400 quickly from China to to internal organs 562 00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:35,990 but that's what's happening 563 00:24:51,790 --> 00:24:48,320 so a couple organs are too but you know 564 00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:51,800 the first thing in stage one is you want 565 00:24:57,940 --> 00:24:56,000 to weaken the Borrelia so by using you 566 00:25:01,320 --> 00:24:57,950 know different products teo free cat's 567 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:01,330 claw mono lauren you know different anti 568 00:25:07,780 --> 00:25:03,650 microbials you can create an environment 569 00:25:09,130 --> 00:25:07,790 that they're not thriving it so they're 570 00:25:11,710 --> 00:25:09,140 kind of weak you got them on the ropes 571 00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:11,720 but your immune system ultimately is 572 00:25:16,330 --> 00:25:14,000 your defender and so what you need to do 573 00:25:18,670 --> 00:25:16,340 is then educate your immune system kind 574 00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:18,680 of turn on the bright lights so that you 575 00:25:23,290 --> 00:25:21,110 can see what you're swinging at and that 576 00:25:27,490 --> 00:25:23,300 is done through homeopathics basically 577 00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:27,500 Borrelia knows oats where you make a REM 578 00:25:33,180 --> 00:25:30,740 out of the Borrelia and that basically 579 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:33,190 once you you know homeopathic Allah 580 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:35,570 utilize that remedy your immune system 581 00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:38,630 starts to see the genetic composition of 582 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:40,880 Borrelia and it starts now be able to 583 00:25:46,780 --> 00:25:44,090 attack the Borrelia instead of just this 584 00:25:49,690 --> 00:25:46,790 wild attacking anywhere where it sees 585 00:25:54,460 --> 00:25:49,700 inflammation mm-hmm which Borelli causes 586 00:25:56,650 --> 00:25:54,470 a lot of information yes yes yes because 587 00:25:58,510 --> 00:25:56,660 my understanding with Lyme is it can get 588 00:26:01,630 --> 00:25:58,520 into your brain it can go anywhere 589 00:26:04,690 --> 00:26:01,640 there's nothing to stop it and you'll go 590 00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:04,700 anywhere yeah yeah and I'll tell you 591 00:26:07,540 --> 00:26:06,710 Nora lime is a horrible experience I 592 00:26:10,860 --> 00:26:07,550 know I had it 593 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:10,870 you know the anxiety the the brain fog 594 00:26:15,220 --> 00:26:13,370 the sensations that run through your 595 00:26:16,930 --> 00:26:15,230 body you know the nerve weird nerve 596 00:26:18,730 --> 00:26:16,940 sensations that get triggered they're 597 00:26:21,250 --> 00:26:18,740 not even real things that are happening 598 00:26:23,140 --> 00:26:21,260 it's just the nerves are kind of telling 599 00:26:24,490 --> 00:26:23,150 you oh there's something going on there 600 00:26:28,540 --> 00:26:24,500 but there's nothing you look there 601 00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:28,550 there's nothing there nor alarms that so 602 00:26:34,090 --> 00:26:30,320 we got phase one right so we want to do 603 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:34,100 that education and basically give your 604 00:26:39,580 --> 00:26:36,170 immune system what it needs the support 605 00:26:44,290 --> 00:26:39,590 it needs to do what it does with any 606 00:26:46,150 --> 00:26:44,300 microbes basically take it out I have a 607 00:26:48,460 --> 00:26:46,160 question for you I I know there was a 608 00:26:52,090 --> 00:26:48,470 wonderful book that scared the crap out 609 00:26:56,380 --> 00:26:52,100 of me I think it was called lab 452 it 610 00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:56,390 was about the weaponization of ticks and 611 00:27:00,700 --> 00:26:58,880 how the chicks left this island outside 612 00:27:02,650 --> 00:27:00,710 of New York City via deer which they 613 00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,660 never expected deer to carry these ticks 614 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:04,400 off the island and that that was the 615 00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:06,770 beginning of the onslaught of what we're 616 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:08,510 seeing today with Lyme disease do you 617 00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:10,370 think it's been weaponized have you seen 618 00:27:16,690 --> 00:27:13,840 anything that would support that theory 619 00:27:19,630 --> 00:27:16,700 well I've heard the theory you know 620 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:19,640 quite a bit people come in but I you 621 00:27:25,630 --> 00:27:23,090 know like I said at the beginning we 622 00:27:27,850 --> 00:27:25,640 have found Borrelia way back when can 623 00:27:30,340 --> 00:27:27,860 you weaponize anything I'm sure why do 624 00:27:33,730 --> 00:27:30,350 it I know there's a lot of theories 625 00:27:36,010 --> 00:27:33,740 there but you know despite the theory it 626 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:36,020 ultimately doesn't matter it's still 627 00:27:41,139 --> 00:27:38,090 there we still need to treat it so 628 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:41,149 that's how I just yeah 629 00:27:49,259 --> 00:27:46,369 you know yes so face which is good that 630 00:27:52,269 --> 00:27:49,269 you are otherwise yes all very quickly 631 00:27:54,729 --> 00:27:52,279 yes a phase two so now that we've 632 00:27:56,619 --> 00:27:54,739 educated the immune system now it has a 633 00:27:59,979 --> 00:27:56,629 shot just like it does with every other 634 00:28:02,099 --> 00:27:59,989 bacteria which Borrelia is not like 635 00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:02,109 every other bacteria it's a very sneaky 636 00:28:10,209 --> 00:28:06,799 spirochete bacteria type bacteria so 637 00:28:14,339 --> 00:28:10,219 phase two is repair and restore now 638 00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:14,349 repair and restore the repair part is 639 00:28:20,979 --> 00:28:18,769 Borrelia basically leaves toxins you 640 00:28:23,589 --> 00:28:20,989 know when it dies it's it's it's it's a 641 00:28:26,729 --> 00:28:23,599 toxin in our body it has a difficulty in 642 00:28:29,979 --> 00:28:26,739 getting rid of just like a brown recluse 643 00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:29,989 has you know has venom that when you get 644 00:28:36,579 --> 00:28:33,529 bit it it keeps necrotizing the tissue 645 00:28:38,529 --> 00:28:36,589 and it keeps growing and growing and it 646 00:28:41,889 --> 00:28:38,539 can cause yeah it's hard because your 647 00:28:44,859 --> 00:28:41,899 body cannot neutralize that toxin now 648 00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:44,869 fortunately the Borrelia is is not that 649 00:28:50,289 --> 00:28:48,080 you know virulent but it is very 650 00:28:52,479 --> 00:28:50,299 difficult for our bodies to get rid of 651 00:28:54,369 --> 00:28:52,489 so a lot of these aches and pains this 652 00:28:56,469 --> 00:28:54,379 post sequelae people say oh you know 653 00:28:58,899 --> 00:28:56,479 it's been a year and i still got these 654 00:29:02,109 --> 00:28:58,909 these pains here and there is that and 655 00:29:04,690 --> 00:29:02,119 and many people just like everything can 656 00:29:07,299 --> 00:29:04,700 deal with those toxins and many people 657 00:29:10,299 --> 00:29:07,309 can so that's the spectrum of severity 658 00:29:13,419 --> 00:29:10,309 and so it's very important to get rid of 659 00:29:15,999 --> 00:29:13,429 those toxins to assist the body into 660 00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:16,009 being able to neutralize those toxins so 661 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:18,320 that the tissues you know that's that's 662 00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:20,570 repair can start to restore themselves 663 00:29:28,509 --> 00:29:24,830 which can take a long time it's it's 664 00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:28,519 almost like microscopic scar tissue that 665 00:29:33,489 --> 00:29:31,279 forms around this toxin and when that 666 00:29:35,259 --> 00:29:33,499 toxin is when that toxin is in your 667 00:29:37,659 --> 00:29:35,269 blood that's what they'll call you know 668 00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:37,669 her or you know when you start killing 669 00:29:42,369 --> 00:29:40,399 off the Borrelia either with antibiotics 670 00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:42,379 or homeopathy or any you know any other 671 00:29:48,430 --> 00:29:45,440 natural way as well that hurts that 672 00:29:53,290 --> 00:29:48,440 detoxification is very severe in lyme 673 00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:53,300 disease more about that 674 00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:54,710 and what we're gonna do right now 675 00:29:58,390 --> 00:29:56,480 everybody is take a very short 676 00:29:59,740 --> 00:29:58,400 commercial break and then we're going to 677 00:30:02,440 --> 00:29:59,750 come back and continue this conversation 678 00:30:04,210 --> 00:30:02,450 with our wonderful guest tonight Robert 679 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:04,220 Abbott ello you can find him at 680 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:06,770 clearpoint acupuncture dot-com 681 00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:09,890 again that's clearpoint acupuncture calm 682 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:12,080 so stay tuned everybody you're listening 683 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:14,450 to Supernatural girls radio and we will 684 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:17,090 be right back welcome back everyone you 685 00:30:21,610 --> 00:30:18,770 are listening to Supernatural girls 686 00:30:24,730 --> 00:30:21,620 radio I'm your host Patricia Baker I am 687 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:24,740 here with my co-host Patricia Kirkman PK 688 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:27,770 and our guest today a very special guest 689 00:30:32,020 --> 00:30:30,050 we are talking about some very serious 690 00:30:33,550 --> 00:30:32,030 health concerns we know that people in 691 00:30:36,850 --> 00:30:33,560 our audience are facing some of these 692 00:30:40,180 --> 00:30:36,860 challenges and we are thrilled to have 693 00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:40,190 Robert Vitello on the air with us today 694 00:30:45,010 --> 00:30:42,560 we are talking about Lyme right now and 695 00:30:47,740 --> 00:30:45,020 how to get rid of it it's no easy 696 00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:47,750 process so Robert please continue tell 697 00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:49,520 us the rest of how you work with a 698 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:51,860 patient and how to deal with this 699 00:31:01,240 --> 00:30:55,370 Borrelia that is so sneaky sneaky Pete 700 00:31:03,850 --> 00:31:01,250 yeah so so the we're in phase 2 so the 701 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:03,860 repair part basically involves a lot of 702 00:31:08,980 --> 00:31:05,690 detoxification getting rid of those 703 00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:08,990 toxins out repairing the tissues you 704 00:31:14,830 --> 00:31:11,710 know strengthening the immune system and 705 00:31:16,450 --> 00:31:14,840 you know it's very much just like if 706 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:16,460 someone came in and said I have a knee 707 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:18,770 problem it's just at that point it's 708 00:31:23,710 --> 00:31:20,570 like okay we're going to treat your knee 709 00:31:26,140 --> 00:31:23,720 problem whether it's injury from you 710 00:31:28,180 --> 00:31:26,150 know from a trauma or it's injury from 711 00:31:30,550 --> 00:31:28,190 the lime at that point it's just 712 00:31:32,890 --> 00:31:30,560 inflammation and if you you don't take 713 00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:32,900 care of it it's your knee your joints 714 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:34,310 going to start disintegrating that's 715 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:37,850 that's arthritis so our so that's the 716 00:31:42,790 --> 00:31:40,850 next thing is you're basically restoring 717 00:31:45,490 --> 00:31:42,800 yourself making yourself healthy and 718 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:45,500 that's a process if you quit somewhere 719 00:31:50,590 --> 00:31:47,090 along the line a lot of people will say 720 00:31:53,050 --> 00:31:50,600 you know what I'm in pain but I'm okay 721 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:53,060 you know I can go back to work I can 722 00:31:58,660 --> 00:31:56,330 sleep I sleep pretty good you know and 723 00:32:01,230 --> 00:31:58,670 and they're like just they're okay 724 00:32:04,750 --> 00:32:01,240 they've kind of created a baseline where 725 00:32:07,090 --> 00:32:04,760 I'm functional all right that you know 726 00:32:09,460 --> 00:32:07,100 then they kind of say well I'm done 727 00:32:13,570 --> 00:32:09,470 that you're not done and the problem 728 00:32:15,460 --> 00:32:13,580 with not being done is that the third 729 00:32:16,180 --> 00:32:15,470 phase which is maintenance you're not 730 00:32:17,919 --> 00:32:16,190 even there yet 731 00:32:20,370 --> 00:32:17,929 what can you write what do you want you 732 00:32:23,710 --> 00:32:20,380 want to maintain you know bare bare 733 00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:23,720 functionality but that restoration is 734 00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:26,240 about making yourself healthy exercising 735 00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:28,910 doing yoga eating well you know creating 736 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:31,190 good social environment creating you 737 00:32:34,990 --> 00:32:33,530 know good relationships all those things 738 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:35,000 really matter because they matter to 739 00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:37,010 your immune system and your immune 740 00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:39,919 system is the frontline against this 741 00:32:44,770 --> 00:32:41,929 disease your immune system the frontline 742 00:32:47,710 --> 00:32:44,780 against any disease all right when and 743 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:47,720 in an autoimmune disease that frontline 744 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:50,210 has been corrupted it's like you you 745 00:32:54,399 --> 00:32:52,010 know your immune system is really a 746 00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:54,409 terrible person in relationship it 747 00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:56,480 doesn't know what it's supposed to be 748 00:33:01,539 --> 00:32:58,880 doing it's making bad choices it's 749 00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:01,549 attacking your organs your muscles it's 750 00:33:07,390 --> 00:33:04,640 attacking you instead of attacking this 751 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:07,400 thing that's invading you and the 752 00:33:16,990 --> 00:33:13,450 confusion is so to unconformity Merapi 753 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:17,000 how funny I love that so yeah that's 754 00:33:20,620 --> 00:33:18,530 what you're doing it and and so you're 755 00:33:23,890 --> 00:33:20,630 you're you know it's this it's a sense 756 00:33:26,590 --> 00:33:23,900 with Borrelia is that the gift is it's 757 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:26,600 going to tell you you know like a good 758 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:28,850 you know I'm a guy so I say like a good 759 00:33:33,610 --> 00:33:31,370 wife will tell you when you're when 760 00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:33,620 you're being a jerk like listen you 761 00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:35,929 painted sure don't do that that's not 762 00:33:40,570 --> 00:33:38,480 very nice you know wake up and you know 763 00:33:42,940 --> 00:33:40,580 and you start that relationship you 764 00:33:45,399 --> 00:33:42,950 start working on you know being a better 765 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:45,409 person and so Borelli is kind of asking 766 00:33:50,409 --> 00:33:47,570 you be a better person be a healthy 767 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:50,419 person and so once you've gone through 768 00:33:56,289 --> 00:33:53,210 that process then phase 3 is maintenance 769 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:56,299 you want to stay healthy and just 770 00:33:59,980 --> 00:33:57,770 because you get a cold doesn't mean 771 00:34:02,680 --> 00:33:59,990 you're gonna get you know Lyme disease 772 00:34:04,060 --> 00:34:02,690 again you know just because you gain 773 00:34:06,250 --> 00:34:04,070 some weight doesn't mean you're gonna 774 00:34:08,260 --> 00:34:06,260 get Lyme again but you know there's a 775 00:34:11,169 --> 00:34:08,270 there's a there's a line there somewhere 776 00:34:13,990 --> 00:34:11,179 that you want to maintain of health all 777 00:34:17,619 --> 00:34:14,000 right so those are the three phases 778 00:34:20,379 --> 00:34:17,629 that's the project and within all those 779 00:34:20,860 --> 00:34:20,389 sections are you know various things 780 00:34:23,620 --> 00:34:20,870 that you need 781 00:34:26,590 --> 00:34:23,630 to do well it's again it's a commitment 782 00:34:29,290 --> 00:34:26,600 pace and it's not easy I think for 783 00:34:31,570 --> 00:34:29,300 people who have Lyme when they feel so 784 00:34:33,310 --> 00:34:31,580 terrible I mean they're it's like when 785 00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:33,320 you're at your worst you're expected to 786 00:34:37,330 --> 00:34:35,960 be your best is how I look at it you're 787 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:37,340 really asking a lot of these people 788 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:39,050 taking all these supplements changing 789 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:41,570 their diet getting you know proper rest 790 00:34:45,490 --> 00:34:43,610 but there's no other alternative if they 791 00:34:47,310 --> 00:34:45,500 want to get well it's a comprehensive 792 00:34:52,620 --> 00:34:47,320 system that has to be in place right 793 00:34:59,050 --> 00:34:57,460 let's say do I wanted to use that word I 794 00:35:01,900 --> 00:34:59,060 try not to you they've been duped into 795 00:35:04,210 --> 00:35:01,910 believing that by taking antibiotics you 796 00:35:06,460 --> 00:35:04,220 know you know having a pic in your arm 797 00:35:09,490 --> 00:35:06,470 for months and months and then years and 798 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:09,500 years that they're getting better but 799 00:35:13,210 --> 00:35:11,090 they're they're not getting better I 800 00:35:15,250 --> 00:35:13,220 remember walking I remember walking into 801 00:35:17,110 --> 00:35:15,260 the bank when I was really sick I'm like 802 00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:17,120 you know wobbling cuz my knees wouldn't 803 00:35:21,370 --> 00:35:19,730 Bend and you know I walk up to the 804 00:35:23,860 --> 00:35:21,380 cashier and she's you know saw what's 805 00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:23,870 the matter you know and I said oh you 806 00:35:29,110 --> 00:35:25,910 know I'm kind of working with the Lyme 807 00:35:31,060 --> 00:35:29,120 disease right now pretty bad oh and she 808 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:31,070 was so excited she said oh I have Lyme 809 00:35:36,820 --> 00:35:33,410 disease too and I said really just yeah 810 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:36,830 in fact a couple like ten days ago I was 811 00:35:42,130 --> 00:35:39,050 on my third round of you know 812 00:35:44,530 --> 00:35:42,140 intravenous antibiotics and well it's 813 00:35:47,620 --> 00:35:44,540 coming back so the doctors could have 814 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:47,630 been like that's that's not healthy and 815 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:49,730 I still see you today and she's she's 816 00:35:57,700 --> 00:35:53,930 still suffering oh no and so that 817 00:36:00,250 --> 00:35:57,710 treatment is is really it's it's not an 818 00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:00,260 effective treatment and if you think it 819 00:36:05,350 --> 00:36:02,960 is then you're gonna lose this really 820 00:36:07,630 --> 00:36:05,360 great benefit if you do have you know 821 00:36:08,380 --> 00:36:07,640 you've been chosen by the universe to 822 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:08,390 have Lyme disease 823 00:36:12,490 --> 00:36:11,570 all right to move on you know mm-hmm 824 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:12,500 mm-hmm 825 00:36:16,050 --> 00:36:14,450 yeah well there's a lot to be said for 826 00:36:18,130 --> 00:36:16,060 this now do you have some special 827 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:18,140 homeopathics that you like because I 828 00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:19,370 know I've talked to you in the past 829 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:21,710 about the German ones that are terrific 830 00:36:26,170 --> 00:36:24,650 but have been banned some of them and 831 00:36:28,450 --> 00:36:26,180 they can't even get them in this country 832 00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:28,460 so do you have a specific brand or 833 00:36:33,110 --> 00:36:29,990 brands that you work with that you think 834 00:36:37,370 --> 00:36:33,120 are up to this task 835 00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:37,380 yeah in fact the the the dinner lecture 836 00:36:44,290 --> 00:36:40,320 that I went to last night in Boston des 837 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:44,300 by oh that's that's the company dis bio 838 00:36:49,850 --> 00:36:47,250 they really specialize in infectious 839 00:36:51,650 --> 00:36:49,860 diseases and detoxification which is why 840 00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:51,660 that lecture was really you know it's 841 00:36:56,750 --> 00:36:54,540 nice to get a little refresher but I 842 00:36:58,700 --> 00:36:56,760 like their products but for every single 843 00:37:00,920 --> 00:36:58,710 person like I'll give you an example 844 00:37:04,340 --> 00:37:00,930 someone comes in they certainly have 845 00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:04,350 Lyme disease but the epstein-barr you 846 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:05,760 know that they got when they were young 847 00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:09,690 most people know it is as mono has kind 848 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:13,200 of risen up so their primary symptom 849 00:37:17,540 --> 00:37:14,970 ology would be you know exhaustion 850 00:37:21,260 --> 00:37:17,550 fatigue they just you know and so at 851 00:37:25,310 --> 00:37:21,270 that point do I treat Lyme disease do I 852 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:25,320 treat epstein-barr and yeah yeah because 853 00:37:30,110 --> 00:37:28,170 I'm a muscle tester I get to ask the 854 00:37:32,690 --> 00:37:30,120 person's body through muscle testing 855 00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:32,700 where do we start and where do you start 856 00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:35,430 is the great great question of healing 857 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:38,640 because there is a sequence of things if 858 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:40,770 I if you want to you know people come in 859 00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:42,090 and got like you know 20 different 860 00:37:47,060 --> 00:37:45,390 symptoms and I said well we're gonna 861 00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:47,070 work on this thing but what about that 862 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:49,260 what about that well if I throw 10 balls 863 00:37:53,990 --> 00:37:51,810 at you well you may catch one but you 864 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:54,000 probably drop them all and the same 865 00:37:56,990 --> 00:37:55,770 thing if you ask your immune system like 866 00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:57,000 listen I want to take care of 867 00:38:00,260 --> 00:37:58,560 epstein-barr I want to take care of 868 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:00,270 Bartonella I want to take care of 869 00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:02,250 Borrelia and you try and do it all at 870 00:38:04,340 --> 00:38:02,790 once 871 00:38:07,310 --> 00:38:04,350 well the immune system doesn't know what 872 00:38:09,230 --> 00:38:07,320 to do mm-hmm it gets confused and you're 873 00:38:11,150 --> 00:38:09,240 not going to get the same result so you 874 00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:11,160 really need to be specific and the whole 875 00:38:18,830 --> 00:38:15,510 spectrum of infections can be present 876 00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,840 because we are you know our body that's 877 00:38:24,020 --> 00:38:20,640 our environment you know if you go to 878 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:24,030 Mexico you can't eat the food they can 879 00:38:28,850 --> 00:38:25,530 eat my food you can't eat the food 880 00:38:31,550 --> 00:38:28,860 they're used to it I know part of the 881 00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:31,560 process is you getting used to what it 882 00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:33,480 is this infection that's in your body 883 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:35,700 and you will get used to it and you can 884 00:38:41,690 --> 00:38:38,370 get used to it and so how you start to 885 00:38:44,210 --> 00:38:41,700 do that is just kind of tricky business 886 00:38:45,590 --> 00:38:44,220 but as a muscle tester I kind of create 887 00:38:46,670 --> 00:38:45,600 that sequence so it's like we're going 888 00:38:49,010 --> 00:38:46,680 to go after this we 889 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:49,020 go after that and then it's a process of 890 00:38:54,850 --> 00:38:51,570 unravelling and they're making sure that 891 00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:54,860 as you unravel the toxins that are being 892 00:39:02,150 --> 00:38:58,530 created by you know viruses and bacteria 893 00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:02,160 dying and your immune system basically 894 00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:04,640 trying to get resources from your body 895 00:39:08,810 --> 00:39:07,110 all those things need to be cleaned up 896 00:39:12,110 --> 00:39:08,820 they need to be addressed and every 897 00:39:14,510 --> 00:39:12,120 single person is different I'm sure I 898 00:39:16,910 --> 00:39:14,520 could be some kind of famous doctor if I 899 00:39:19,490 --> 00:39:16,920 had three jars or something I said here 900 00:39:21,530 --> 00:39:19,500 you know yes three things you know get 901 00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:21,540 back to your mind you'll be fine 902 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:26,640 yeah it's it's not happening so that's 903 00:39:32,510 --> 00:39:29,970 kind of the process of how do I choose 904 00:39:35,780 --> 00:39:32,520 and then another mistake based on you 905 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:35,790 know in relationships that people bring 906 00:39:41,450 --> 00:39:38,730 in boxes of stuff I tell them to was it 907 00:39:43,310 --> 00:39:41,460 bringing all your supplements and you 908 00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:43,320 know they're taking twenty thirty things 909 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:47,310 at a time well I've never read about a 910 00:39:54,170 --> 00:39:49,530 supplement I didn't want to take they're 911 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:54,180 all great to say I make the same mistake 912 00:39:59,540 --> 00:39:56,370 believe me once this starts piling up on 913 00:40:01,100 --> 00:39:59,550 my counter at home my wife says you got 914 00:40:03,650 --> 00:40:01,110 it you gotta straighten this out and 915 00:40:05,810 --> 00:40:03,660 then she'll be a surrogate muscle tester 916 00:40:08,090 --> 00:40:05,820 and I go through everything and lo and 917 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:08,100 behold it's like five things I had 918 00:40:13,370 --> 00:40:10,890 twenty on the on the table only five of 919 00:40:15,830 --> 00:40:13,380 them are useful for me at that time so I 920 00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:15,840 put the other ones aside so so that is a 921 00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:17,760 process it's kind of a complicated 922 00:40:25,550 --> 00:40:23,250 process I think it's a patient you have 923 00:40:27,290 --> 00:40:25,560 to be take your own responsibility here 924 00:40:30,740 --> 00:40:27,300 you've got to do your hundred-percent 925 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:30,750 with the practitioner because years ago 926 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:33,570 you know we used to think of MDS where 927 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:35,490 minor deities MD that's what it stood 928 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:37,170 for you know we just worship these 929 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:39,690 people they were gonna heal us and wave 930 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:42,090 their magic wand on pharmaceuticals and 931 00:40:46,460 --> 00:40:43,890 we were going to be all better and now 932 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:46,470 in this society we are sicker than ever 933 00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:48,690 before we're taking more medications 934 00:40:53,570 --> 00:40:51,000 than ever before it doesn't work that's 935 00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:53,580 a bad relationship we need to own up to 936 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:55,920 our diet we need to up to taking these 937 00:41:00,050 --> 00:40:57,690 supplements doing the proper kind of 938 00:41:00,529 --> 00:41:00,060 exercise if we can if we're well enough 939 00:41:03,859 --> 00:41:00,539 to act 940 00:41:07,189 --> 00:41:03,869 sighs so you've become a partner with 941 00:41:09,439 --> 00:41:07,199 your practitioner rather than just give 942 00:41:11,209 --> 00:41:09,449 me the next menu no medicine that you 943 00:41:13,669 --> 00:41:11,219 think is going to heal me and you have 944 00:41:15,709 --> 00:41:13,679 to participate right they're not gods 945 00:41:17,029 --> 00:41:15,719 that's the difference we used to think 946 00:41:19,609 --> 00:41:17,039 so yeah 947 00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:19,619 yeah I mean you don't have to jump out 948 00:41:25,189 --> 00:41:21,599 of an airplane you know the first time 949 00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:25,199 you know maybe that's what you can do is 950 00:41:28,489 --> 00:41:26,880 what you could do and I'm one of those 951 00:41:29,959 --> 00:41:28,499 practitioners that if you you know you 952 00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:29,969 come back to me say listen I know you 953 00:41:36,109 --> 00:41:32,160 told me not to eat potato chips but I 954 00:41:38,989 --> 00:41:36,119 ate like ten bags okay you did I 955 00:41:42,049 --> 00:41:38,999 understand that I know perfection is not 956 00:41:45,019 --> 00:41:42,059 the goal you know but moving forward is 957 00:41:47,269 --> 00:41:45,029 the goal so yji tomato chips you know 958 00:41:49,249 --> 00:41:47,279 sometimes I have to talk to people 959 00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:49,259 almost like I'm a therapist well why'd 960 00:41:53,809 --> 00:41:50,910 you eat those 10 bags of potato chips 961 00:41:56,659 --> 00:41:53,819 you know and then we talk about it's 962 00:41:58,489 --> 00:41:56,669 okay I think I can maybe you know have 963 00:42:01,339 --> 00:41:58,499 one bag of potato chips and eat some 964 00:42:04,939 --> 00:42:01,349 celery and you know we negotiate you 965 00:42:07,009 --> 00:42:04,949 know doctors very often have a complex 966 00:42:09,019 --> 00:42:07,019 they think they are God they think they 967 00:42:10,819 --> 00:42:09,029 know everything and you know it's 968 00:42:12,439 --> 00:42:10,829 understandable you could if you can save 969 00:42:14,509 --> 00:42:12,449 somebody's life and they you know they 970 00:42:15,289 --> 00:42:14,519 do they save people's life my life's 971 00:42:17,779 --> 00:42:15,299 been saved 972 00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:17,789 I have gratitude for that and I have 973 00:42:24,049 --> 00:42:21,209 appreciation for that but you know they 974 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:24,059 used to have her to save my life but you 975 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:26,249 know maybe next time I you know I need a 976 00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:29,130 saw or a chisel and they don't have one 977 00:42:33,409 --> 00:42:30,209 so they're gonna hit me with a hammer 978 00:42:37,309 --> 00:42:33,419 it's not gonna work but I tell my 979 00:42:39,529 --> 00:42:37,319 patients listen you're the boss of me 980 00:42:41,689 --> 00:42:39,539 I'm your I'm a consultant I tell you I 981 00:42:43,309 --> 00:42:41,699 give you my best advice you do what you 982 00:42:45,529 --> 00:42:43,319 the best you can do it if you come back 983 00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:45,539 and say okay I did this and that what 984 00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:46,169 else do I do 985 00:42:51,169 --> 00:42:49,049 that's okay let's let's try this we keep 986 00:42:54,109 --> 00:42:51,179 going your doctor should have the same 987 00:42:55,939 --> 00:42:54,119 relationship with you you're your 988 00:42:58,669 --> 00:42:55,949 doctors worse you're paying him you 989 00:43:01,489 --> 00:42:58,679 hired him let me tell you if we went to 990 00:43:04,009 --> 00:43:01,499 a cash system like you met your doctor 991 00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:04,019 like people pay me it's yeah I take very 992 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:08,689 little insurance if you paid your doctor 993 00:43:13,279 --> 00:43:11,729 they would go broke they would go out of 994 00:43:13,860 --> 00:43:13,289 business because if you walked in there 995 00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:13,870 and you 996 00:43:20,270 --> 00:43:16,240 might not understand this but every time 997 00:43:23,940 --> 00:43:20,280 you see your doctor it's $300 easy yeah 998 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:23,950 basic you know 12 minute thanks yeah if 999 00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:26,050 you went in there for 12 for 12 minutes 1000 00:43:30,330 --> 00:43:28,480 and paying $300 in they say huh I don't 1001 00:43:32,580 --> 00:43:30,340 know we'll run this test or you know 1002 00:43:34,020 --> 00:43:32,590 just just hang in there just keep taking 1003 00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:34,030 that drug I know it's bothering you but 1004 00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:35,680 just keep taking it you'll get used to 1005 00:43:42,030 --> 00:43:40,480 it um you can go back and you know so 1006 00:43:44,670 --> 00:43:42,040 there's this relationship you need to 1007 00:43:46,350 --> 00:43:44,680 create that's real like hey you work for 1008 00:43:49,020 --> 00:43:46,360 me this is what I want to do I don't 1009 00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:49,030 want to take that drug what's what else 1010 00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:51,760 can I do what can you do for me and I 1011 00:43:55,860 --> 00:43:54,160 think that they'll be you know that 1012 00:43:57,150 --> 00:43:55,870 would be a even though you're using 1013 00:44:00,030 --> 00:43:57,160 insurance you could still have that 1014 00:44:02,460 --> 00:44:00,040 relationship my doctors are wonderful 1015 00:44:04,770 --> 00:44:02,470 people I love them I go in I say listen 1016 00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:04,780 doc I think I got Lyme disease so yeah 1017 00:44:08,310 --> 00:44:06,310 well I'll run a test I know it's not 1018 00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:08,320 accurate let's run in anyways let's run 1019 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:10,960 a bunch of tests you know I know your 1020 00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:12,850 patients they some of them come to me 1021 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:14,830 and you've treated them treat yourself 1022 00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:17,890 I'll monitor you I will want to test 1023 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:20,470 that you need I'll take care of you and 1024 00:44:23,820 --> 00:44:22,090 I go back and I get better so though 1025 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:23,830 you're doing great that's wonderful you 1026 00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:25,330 know that while your tests look better 1027 00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:27,550 this looks good that's the kind of 1028 00:44:31,710 --> 00:44:29,110 relationship that you should have with a 1029 00:44:34,530 --> 00:44:31,720 doctor so I encourage battling to do 1030 00:44:36,930 --> 00:44:34,540 that yeah I think that's absolutely 1031 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:36,940 great advice so let's move on to 1032 00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,610 autoimmune disease because that you've 1033 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:41,440 mentioned before it's you said it's like 1034 00:44:44,730 --> 00:44:43,210 having a bad relationship where the 1035 00:44:45,810 --> 00:44:44,740 immune system isn't doing what it's 1036 00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:45,820 supposed to be doing 1037 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:48,880 so how again do you address that is it 1038 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:51,130 the same protocol is it different than 1039 00:45:00,090 --> 00:44:57,010 Lyme disease ultimately it's the same 1040 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:00,100 I mean Lyme disease will create an 1041 00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:11,280 excuse me will trigger in order you know 1042 00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:15,280 you're you know some nascent autoimmune 1043 00:45:19,110 --> 00:45:16,480 disease that you may have in your 1044 00:45:21,390 --> 00:45:19,120 genetic code it can kick it off but 1045 00:45:23,550 --> 00:45:21,400 according to Abbott epigenetics you 1046 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:23,560 could undo that as well you know just 1047 00:45:26,850 --> 00:45:25,330 because you okay you've triggered it 1048 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:26,860 doesn't mean you can't on trigger it 1049 00:45:31,170 --> 00:45:28,930 there you know there is a line of you 1050 00:45:33,210 --> 00:45:31,180 know there's a point of no return you 1051 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:33,220 know and it's not for me to say where 1052 00:45:38,850 --> 00:45:36,130 that line is but I know after you know 1053 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:38,860 treating you know a multitude of people 1054 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:41,290 with MS that the people will come to me 1055 00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:43,330 in the beginning when they just starting 1056 00:45:47,340 --> 00:45:45,280 to have symptoms and you know this 1057 00:45:49,860 --> 00:45:47,350 tingling and that tingling or you know 1058 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:49,870 whatever the symptom is you know they've 1059 00:45:56,370 --> 00:45:51,850 been diagnosed you know there's a lesion 1060 00:45:58,830 --> 00:45:56,380 present those people I can work really 1061 00:46:01,560 --> 00:45:58,840 well with because it's in the beginning 1062 00:46:04,770 --> 00:46:01,570 we're very close once you're you know in 1063 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:04,780 a wheelchair or you know worse it 1064 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:06,850 becomes more difficult I never give up 1065 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:09,250 hope no matter what there there's always 1066 00:46:13,890 --> 00:46:11,290 a miracle around the corner there's 1067 00:46:16,290 --> 00:46:13,900 always something that could be done but 1068 00:46:18,510 --> 00:46:16,300 it does become difficult it's just yeah 1069 00:46:21,210 --> 00:46:18,520 make it simple if you're gaining weight 1070 00:46:24,380 --> 00:46:21,220 it's a whole lot easier to lose ten 1071 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:24,390 pounds than a hundred pounds exactly and 1072 00:46:29,090 --> 00:46:26,770 it's the same thing can you lose a 1073 00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:29,100 hundred pounds absolutely you can do it 1074 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:33,760 but you know kind of go get there sooner 1075 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:35,890 and if people get to an alternative 1076 00:46:41,610 --> 00:46:39,370 practitioner or a natural healer sooner 1077 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:41,620 they're gonna get the best result 1078 00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:44,890 don't wait it's always it's always sad 1079 00:46:49,710 --> 00:46:47,680 when you know it's my doctor says I have 1080 00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:49,720 a week left to live what can you do for 1081 00:46:55,380 --> 00:46:53,110 me you know go home spend time with your 1082 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:55,390 family it's it's hard so my 1083 00:46:59,700 --> 00:46:56,890 encouragement is you know a little 1084 00:47:00,990 --> 00:46:59,710 symptom just keep it that way 1085 00:47:04,350 --> 00:47:01,000 you know keep it that way but 1086 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:04,360 autoimmunity autoimmune disorders as 1087 00:47:08,970 --> 00:47:06,490 treated in Western medicine as they just 1088 00:47:11,490 --> 00:47:08,980 say hey you got a bad immune system 1089 00:47:13,740 --> 00:47:11,500 it's attacking your own whatever it is 1090 00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:13,750 whether you have you know Crohn's or RA 1091 00:47:18,830 --> 00:47:16,960 or scleroderma whatever it is it's 1092 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:18,840 attacking your system 1093 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:21,210 system within you because it became so 1094 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:22,170 confused 1095 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:24,570 it just started attacking you instead of 1096 00:47:28,550 --> 00:47:26,610 what it was supposed to do and you know 1097 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:28,560 I come from leaky gut that comes from 1098 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:30,930 toxicity that comes from you know 1099 00:47:34,970 --> 00:47:33,570 nutritional deprivation you know we live 1100 00:47:37,790 --> 00:47:34,980 in a country where you know you could 1101 00:47:40,250 --> 00:47:37,800 get anything you want but we still have 1102 00:47:43,340 --> 00:47:40,260 nutritional deprivation because if you 1103 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:43,350 take a food that's broken you know white 1104 00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:46,290 bread white flour process things things 1105 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:49,910 with chemicals that that will break you 1106 00:47:56,530 --> 00:47:53,210 interesting nutritionally deficient 1107 00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:56,540 because even though there's availability 1108 00:48:01,220 --> 00:47:58,770 you're not taking advantage of you're 1109 00:48:06,970 --> 00:48:01,230 actually taken out of the bank more than 1110 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:06,980 you're putting in the bank so true yes 1111 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:11,130 point yeah you don't pay attention yeah 1112 00:48:18,050 --> 00:48:16,050 you mentioned earlier about mono mice 1113 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:18,060 one son had mono when he was in high 1114 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:20,130 school and to the point that they 1115 00:48:26,090 --> 00:48:21,930 hospitalized him for about three or four 1116 00:48:27,890 --> 00:48:26,100 days and because of that is he more 1117 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:27,900 susceptible to something like this 1118 00:48:33,590 --> 00:48:30,770 taking place in his system down the road 1119 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:33,600 no it would be the opposite if he did 1120 00:48:38,750 --> 00:48:36,090 get Lyme disease it could activate the 1121 00:48:40,940 --> 00:48:38,760 mono okay they could you know the immune 1122 00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:40,950 system people II could only do so many 1123 00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:43,200 things right and so then the model rises 1124 00:48:51,770 --> 00:48:49,310 up it tends to be you know easier to 1125 00:48:53,420 --> 00:48:51,780 then put it back in its place 1126 00:48:56,210 --> 00:48:53,430 because your immune system did it once 1127 00:48:59,450 --> 00:48:56,220 and now all it needs is the resources 1128 00:49:01,850 --> 00:48:59,460 and the wherewithal to do that again and 1129 00:49:03,830 --> 00:49:01,860 then you move on to the the next 1130 00:49:07,130 --> 00:49:03,840 infection you move on to detoxification 1131 00:49:10,250 --> 00:49:07,140 and so back to the art you know that all 1132 00:49:13,970 --> 00:49:10,260 autoimmune diseases there is a toxicity 1133 00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:13,980 issue the brain needs to communicate 1134 00:49:19,010 --> 00:49:16,380 through the nervous system you know to 1135 00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:19,020 the cells to the matrix and when there's 1136 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:23,310 toxicity that's not happening for 1137 00:49:28,370 --> 00:49:25,770 instance with with you know with with 1138 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:28,380 women and their menstrual cycle this is 1139 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:30,810 a real important hormonal you know 1140 00:49:34,540 --> 00:49:32,690 exchange your body is one 1141 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:34,550 person this part of the month and 1142 00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:36,530 another person this part in a month well 1143 00:49:40,210 --> 00:49:38,000 if you have things that block those 1144 00:49:42,250 --> 00:49:40,220 hormone receptor sites that that 1145 00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:42,260 transition becomes hard the message 1146 00:49:48,430 --> 00:49:45,200 isn't getting there and you know that's 1147 00:49:50,859 --> 00:49:48,440 the cause of of this imbalance of you 1148 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:50,869 know going through those cycles that for 1149 00:49:56,380 --> 00:49:54,530 many women are very easy it's a process 1150 00:49:58,420 --> 00:49:56,390 they just go through it and for many 1151 00:50:01,720 --> 00:49:58,430 women they suffer that's an issue of 1152 00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:01,730 toxicity and the same thing you know 1153 00:50:06,130 --> 00:50:03,710 with autoimmune disorders you're getting 1154 00:50:08,380 --> 00:50:06,140 poor signaling poor messaging because 1155 00:50:10,270 --> 00:50:08,390 not only does the brain need to tell you 1156 00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:10,280 know the cells whether their immune 1157 00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:13,040 cells or or inside your cell it should 1158 00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:15,440 be detoxifying or making energy whatever 1159 00:50:20,620 --> 00:50:17,599 but the cell needs to communicate to the 1160 00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:20,630 brain hey I need this I need this thing 1161 00:50:26,430 --> 00:50:24,079 I need this this nutrient then it-it's 1162 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:26,440 mineral so that I can accomplish this 1163 00:50:30,910 --> 00:50:29,210 and so the brain doesn't hear it or the 1164 00:50:32,319 --> 00:50:30,920 brain says oh you know that thing that 1165 00:50:34,359 --> 00:50:32,329 you do in school will you whisper to 1166 00:50:36,370 --> 00:50:34,369 someone yeah you know something at the 1167 00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:36,380 end it's something else well this is 1168 00:50:41,530 --> 00:50:39,440 what's happening when you become you 1169 00:50:44,589 --> 00:50:41,540 know where there's toxins involved which 1170 00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:44,599 believe me we are exposed if you're 1171 00:50:47,620 --> 00:50:45,680 driving in a car 1172 00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:47,630 well forget if it's a new car there's 1173 00:50:52,569 --> 00:50:50,089 toxins but the car in front of you is 1174 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:52,579 spewing thousands of toxins out of the 1175 00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:54,530 tailpipe that's going right into your 1176 00:50:58,780 --> 00:50:56,260 car there's even if you have the little 1177 00:51:00,760 --> 00:50:58,790 filter in there that's just though you 1178 00:51:03,460 --> 00:51:00,770 know that's a particle filter those 1179 00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:03,470 toxins are molecular and they come in 1180 00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:05,599 and we're breathing them all the time so 1181 00:51:09,490 --> 00:51:07,520 we're getting mixed signals you know 1182 00:51:12,250 --> 00:51:09,500 yourselves go and help me help me I need 1183 00:51:14,620 --> 00:51:12,260 this and your brains going oh he sent 1184 00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:14,630 sends something else down there and so 1185 00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:17,089 now you got this miss signalling and an 1186 00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:19,760 autoimmune disorder is a miss signaling 1187 00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:22,400 so detoxification you always want to 1188 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:25,609 start detoxification take the pressure 1189 00:51:30,940 --> 00:51:28,730 off of the person's body you know 1190 00:51:33,849 --> 00:51:30,950 whatever it is you know poor food poor 1191 00:51:37,420 --> 00:51:33,859 sleep you know over activity under 1192 00:51:40,030 --> 00:51:37,430 activity so you've got to start working 1193 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:40,040 those things out and then sooner or 1194 00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:43,010 later the body starts to create correct 1195 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:45,920 signals and those correct signals then 1196 00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:48,770 start to heal the person and that's how 1197 00:51:53,770 --> 00:51:50,720 you might do that even genetic you 1198 00:51:54,039 --> 00:51:53,780 you're telling your genes oh listen you 1199 00:51:56,140 --> 00:51:54,049 know 1200 00:52:05,349 --> 00:51:56,150 yeah that's an okay gene but I'd rather 1201 00:52:09,809 --> 00:52:05,359 you not express yourself so that it's 1202 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:09,819 just that process of healing take place 1203 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:12,650 I'm sorry I was just gonna ask with you 1204 00:52:16,660 --> 00:52:14,210 because I know you deal with skeller 1205 00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:16,670 derma and just what is the prevalence of 1206 00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:18,559 the Lyme disease infection with someone 1207 00:52:24,430 --> 00:52:21,440 that has scala derma well I am NOT asked 1208 00:52:29,380 --> 00:52:24,440 Laird Dermott specialist although some 1209 00:52:31,059 --> 00:52:29,390 people wish I were and you know because 1210 00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:31,069 when you're talking about scleroderma 1211 00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:33,680 you're talking about like one out of I 1212 00:52:42,370 --> 00:52:38,329 think it's 250,000 you know people and 1213 00:52:44,829 --> 00:52:42,380 so it's this very interesting thing is 1214 00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:44,839 every week a disease comes into my 1215 00:52:51,250 --> 00:52:48,079 office that I never heard of it's just 1216 00:52:54,460 --> 00:52:51,260 amazing 32 years and somebody says oh I 1217 00:52:57,339 --> 00:52:54,470 have this I go well let me look that up 1218 00:52:59,380 --> 00:52:57,349 and it's okay I see it I'm looking for 1219 00:53:02,049 --> 00:52:59,390 categories where is that happening you 1220 00:53:04,900 --> 00:53:02,059 know and even within scleroderma you 1221 00:53:07,359 --> 00:53:04,910 have all different kinds of forms of 1222 00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:07,369 scleroderma where's it going you know is 1223 00:53:12,430 --> 00:53:09,710 this systemic is it a local you know 1224 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:12,440 where's it going but ultimately I never 1225 00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:15,770 look at it in a particle form like oh 1226 00:53:20,859 --> 00:53:18,559 you have this thing it's like what do I 1227 00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:20,869 need to do to make you healthy that's 1228 00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:23,200 the goal you know and are there 1229 00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:26,329 important you know you know Patricia you 1230 00:53:31,660 --> 00:53:27,710 mentioned the santim remedies from 1231 00:53:35,020 --> 00:53:31,670 Germany my super in fact super effective 1232 00:53:37,740 --> 00:53:35,030 in in turning around autoimmune 1233 00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:37,750 disorders making the correction you know 1234 00:53:44,260 --> 00:53:41,119 right not the end all and be all but a 1235 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:44,270 really significant thing you know yes 1236 00:53:49,089 --> 00:53:46,250 you know a cake has many ingredients you 1237 00:53:52,329 --> 00:53:49,099 leave one out it's not such a good cake 1238 00:53:53,770 --> 00:53:52,339 you know and and but if you build you 1239 00:53:57,309 --> 00:53:53,780 know you put the ingredients in right 1240 00:54:01,090 --> 00:53:57,319 and a great chef will make use the same 1241 00:54:14,660 --> 00:54:03,890 you know they get these terrible 1242 00:54:16,130 --> 00:54:14,670 ingredients like you know so when you 1243 00:54:18,110 --> 00:54:16,140 when you put a prescription together 1244 00:54:22,460 --> 00:54:18,120 it's it's like you know you wanna get 1245 00:54:24,980 --> 00:54:22,470 with experience with you you can do a 1246 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:24,990 better thing like that so I still look 1247 00:54:29,890 --> 00:54:26,970 at every autoimmune disease I used to 1248 00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:29,900 have rheumatoid arthritis and 1249 00:54:32,780 --> 00:54:32,250 unfortunately I fixed that that was 1250 00:54:35,660 --> 00:54:32,790 great 1251 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:35,670 it was certainly by a mistake but I'll 1252 00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:38,610 take it you know yeah yeah I told 1253 00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:41,910 Patricia I I took a product and I took 1254 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:44,640 way too much way too much of it cuz it 1255 00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:46,530 had expired in this particular product 1256 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:49,200 these are from Germany they didn't 1257 00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:51,450 expire but I ate a whole box of them and 1258 00:54:55,550 --> 00:54:53,250 the next day my knee blew up and I used 1259 00:54:58,430 --> 00:54:55,560 to be able to tell people when the 1260 00:55:00,770 --> 00:54:58,440 weather was gonna change you know cuz I 1261 00:55:02,780 --> 00:55:00,780 couldn't walk the day before and I took 1262 00:55:04,670 --> 00:55:02,790 this stuff and the day after I did it I 1263 00:55:08,780 --> 00:55:04,680 stayed up kind of late I woke up my knee 1264 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:08,790 was blown up and it was pretty rough and 1265 00:55:14,450 --> 00:55:11,010 of course understanding the principles 1266 00:55:16,490 --> 00:55:14,460 of homeopathy and reversing a disorder 1267 00:55:18,980 --> 00:55:16,500 you're going back through you know you 1268 00:55:22,940 --> 00:55:18,990 according to nature Pathak understanding 1269 00:55:25,490 --> 00:55:22,950 you heal from top to bottom from inside 1270 00:55:27,830 --> 00:55:25,500 to out and in reverse order so in this 1271 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:27,840 case it was like in reverse order I had 1272 00:55:32,660 --> 00:55:30,570 it and now really have it but it's 1273 00:55:34,340 --> 00:55:32,670 coming out and and I called my teacher 1274 00:55:35,530 --> 00:55:34,350 and I said oh my god I think I'm gonna 1275 00:55:38,210 --> 00:55:35,540 die what did I do 1276 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:38,220 you know I hear this blank you know 1277 00:55:42,380 --> 00:55:39,930 there's this statement you know like 1278 00:55:43,310 --> 00:55:42,390 nothing on the phone and I'm like are 1279 00:55:45,110 --> 00:55:43,320 you still there he goes 1280 00:55:47,780 --> 00:55:45,120 yeah he said I'm pretty sure you were at 1281 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:47,790 the whole seminar he said what part do 1282 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:49,290 you think you missed I said I miss 1283 00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:52,170 anything he goes well tell me what you 1284 00:55:58,220 --> 00:55:54,480 should do and then it of course it hit 1285 00:56:00,560 --> 00:55:58,230 me I said keep going let the process go 1286 00:56:03,980 --> 00:56:00,570 so I said I should take more he says 1287 00:56:06,740 --> 00:56:03,990 take more amazing so I'm told that's not 1288 00:56:08,660 --> 00:56:06,750 we're gonna get back to this last 1289 00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:08,670 half-hour together this is such an 1290 00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:11,040 exciting discussion and I know people 1291 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:12,480 are gonna benefit so much from hearing 1292 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:12,810 from you 1293 00:56:17,540 --> 00:56:14,010 Robert we're so glad you're with us 1294 00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:17,550 today so stinky we are gonna take 1295 00:56:21,380 --> 00:56:19,110 another short break and we'll be right 1296 00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:21,390 back you are listening to Supernatural 1297 00:56:29,210 --> 00:56:26,910 girls radio all right guys 1298 00:56:38,450 --> 00:56:29,220 by the way Patricia I think he went a 1299 00:56:42,140 --> 00:56:38,460 bit over to say so let's just see the 1300 00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:42,150 last time in for 24 minutes 724 let me 1301 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:46,110 clear all right hang on PK b are you 1302 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:47,850 able to send me that list yeah I did 1303 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:50,490 honey that's why I asked you that okay I 1304 00:56:56,660 --> 00:56:53,130 did this I was doing this to see if you 1305 00:57:06,950 --> 00:56:59,590 all right now just give me a second I 1306 00:57:09,910 --> 00:57:06,960 don't know I just resend it anyway not 1307 00:57:15,370 --> 00:57:09,920 so much here it is you got it okay I 1308 00:57:19,220 --> 00:57:17,330 Epis on a page there were two things 1309 00:57:29,900 --> 00:57:19,230 that I went by it the first time time so 1310 00:57:33,050 --> 00:57:29,910 I went scroll back through what's that 1311 00:57:36,110 --> 00:57:33,060 Robert all right I just think this blank 1312 00:57:40,310 --> 00:57:36,120 thing this has screener on it oh that's 1313 00:57:44,930 --> 00:57:40,320 me that's Jo Jo won't put his picture up 1314 00:58:03,340 --> 00:57:44,940 there worried about terrifying everybody 1315 00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:06,110 before we go back the last question 1316 00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:08,310 prevalence of Lyme disease infections 1317 00:58:13,870 --> 00:58:10,110 and scleroderma do they go hand-in-hand 1318 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:21,040 Oh what's the next question 1319 00:58:26,570 --> 00:58:23,900 feel like a complete or you want to 1320 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:26,580 break it down a little bit yes 1321 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:28,170 break it down a little bit like in your 1322 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:30,450 experience you know how many people have 1323 00:58:34,490 --> 00:58:32,490 scleroderma and lime you know they go 1324 00:58:38,270 --> 00:58:34,500 hand in hand I know for me I tested 1325 00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:38,280 positive on both right so yeah I really 1326 00:58:42,500 --> 00:58:41,040 it's I don't have enough experience I 1327 00:58:48,110 --> 00:58:42,510 mean that was kind of the point I was 1328 00:58:51,350 --> 00:58:48,120 making right it's like I'll reiterate 1329 00:58:53,660 --> 00:58:51,360 the answer there and excited no you also 1330 00:58:54,890 --> 00:58:53,670 said something about which I'll also 1331 00:58:57,350 --> 00:58:54,900 mention on the other that if you don't 1332 00:58:58,090 --> 00:58:57,360 heal the Lyme you can't really heal 1333 00:59:03,680 --> 00:58:58,100 anything 1334 00:59:06,290 --> 00:59:03,690 so that's can roadblock to health if you 1335 00:59:10,940 --> 00:59:06,300 don't take care of it yeah all right 1336 00:59:14,530 --> 00:59:10,950 yeah all right okay go Joe we're a go in 1337 00:59:16,970 --> 00:59:14,540 three two one 1338 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:16,980 welcome back everyone to supernatural 1339 00:59:22,790 --> 00:59:19,170 Girls radio I'm your host Patricia Baker 1340 00:59:25,130 --> 00:59:22,800 I am here with my co-host PK be sure to 1341 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:25,140 visit our Facebook page Supernatural 1342 00:59:30,650 --> 00:59:28,410 girls with a Z and also the real zombie 1343 00:59:32,990 --> 00:59:30,660 plague both of them on Facebook make 1344 00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:33,000 sure you pay us a visit follow us like 1345 00:59:38,180 --> 00:59:36,480 us we really appreciate your support and 1346 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:38,190 we are supporting you today with a great 1347 00:59:44,510 --> 00:59:41,250 guest Robert Abbott ello he can be found 1348 00:59:46,310 --> 00:59:44,520 at clearpoint acupuncture calm he also 1349 00:59:47,900 --> 00:59:46,320 is available for phone consults because 1350 00:59:50,300 --> 00:59:47,910 I know a lot of our audiences all around 1351 00:59:53,420 --> 00:59:50,310 the world and you can find Robert again 1352 00:59:56,030 --> 00:59:53,430 there clearpoint acupuncture calm so 1353 00:59:57,830 --> 00:59:56,040 Robert we're talking about autoimmune 1354 00:59:59,000 --> 00:59:57,840 and scleroderma is something that you 1355 01:00:02,270 --> 00:59:59,010 and I have talked about a lot and 1356 01:00:04,130 --> 01:00:02,280 because I have it and one of the last 1357 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:04,140 questions that PK just asked you is 1358 01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:06,210 about the prevalence of Lyme disease in 1359 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:08,640 factions in scleroderma and as you said 1360 01:00:14,180 --> 01:00:11,730 it's a rare disease scleroderma is so 1361 01:00:16,250 --> 01:00:14,190 it's hard to judge and gauge but 1362 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:16,260 certainly something that you told me 1363 01:00:21,250 --> 01:00:18,330 really stuck which is if you don't heal 1364 01:00:24,590 --> 01:00:21,260 the line you can't heal anything else 1365 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:24,600 yeah and and and that goes back to the 1366 01:00:31,420 --> 01:00:27,530 fact that I consider Lyme a gift if 1367 01:00:33,650 --> 01:00:31,430 you're blessed with that thanks a lot 1368 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:33,660 but you know I mean at the point where 1369 01:00:39,470 --> 01:00:35,690 this is the thing you're working with 1370 01:00:40,220 --> 01:00:39,480 it's really about going through all the 1371 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:40,230 phases of 1372 01:00:44,420 --> 01:00:42,330 your life and healing yourself and and 1373 01:00:46,609 --> 01:00:44,430 again you stop anywhere along the line 1374 01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:46,619 you know I tell people you know healing 1375 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:48,960 is like getting to the top floor you 1376 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:50,850 know get into the penthouse you can stop 1377 01:00:55,970 --> 01:00:52,770 on the first floor and the second floor 1378 01:00:58,130 --> 01:00:55,980 and people do they go this is enough but 1379 01:01:00,830 --> 01:00:58,140 really the ultimate thing is you want to 1380 01:01:03,050 --> 01:01:00,840 go all the way so I'll have a patient 1381 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:03,060 you know that has gone all the way just 1382 01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:06,210 really taking it to heart has gone 1383 01:01:10,970 --> 01:01:08,160 through the therapy is made sure they 1384 01:01:12,740 --> 01:01:10,980 keeping their subs healthy they come see 1385 01:01:14,780 --> 01:01:12,750 me every month or two whatever they 1386 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:14,790 check in they make sure they're getting 1387 01:01:20,060 --> 01:01:16,890 their supplements and to getting the 1388 01:01:23,330 --> 01:01:20,070 right ones and you know those people 1389 01:01:25,490 --> 01:01:23,340 they get bid again you know the woods 1390 01:01:27,020 --> 01:01:25,500 they get bit and they you know the first 1391 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:27,030 time it happens they think that their 1392 01:01:31,540 --> 01:01:29,490 eyes are wide they're like oh my god you 1393 01:01:33,950 --> 01:01:31,550 know I don't want to get Lyme again 1394 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:33,960 tonight it's not you know those people 1395 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:37,050 here take this take this not a problem I 1396 01:01:41,660 --> 01:01:39,450 mean I got bit two months ago or 1397 01:01:44,510 --> 01:01:41,670 something like that I got big clearly it 1398 01:01:46,580 --> 01:01:44,520 was like a bad bite so immediately I did 1399 01:01:47,900 --> 01:01:46,590 the same thing I took this I took that 1400 01:01:50,990 --> 01:01:47,910 and I'm saying this or that because 1401 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:51,000 everybody's different um when I I took 1402 01:01:56,990 --> 01:01:52,890 you know I took lime plus was the 1403 01:02:00,020 --> 01:01:57,000 product i took some model Lauren and I 1404 01:02:01,460 --> 01:02:00,030 think I took some cellular 14 max and 1405 01:02:03,020 --> 01:02:01,470 they took a lot more than probably I 1406 01:02:04,940 --> 01:02:03,030 would prescribe because I don't have 1407 01:02:07,430 --> 01:02:04,950 that opportunity I want to be you know I 1408 01:02:09,140 --> 01:02:07,440 can't get a cold as far as I'm concerned 1409 01:02:12,050 --> 01:02:09,150 I need to be here every day so I just 1410 01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:12,060 took away three days done that was two 1411 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:14,400 months ago now no problem so that's the 1412 01:02:19,609 --> 01:02:16,290 promise at the end that you're just like 1413 01:02:21,530 --> 01:02:19,619 a normal person you can get bit you do 1414 01:02:22,460 --> 01:02:21,540 something for a day or two or a week and 1415 01:02:25,490 --> 01:02:22,470 you're done 1416 01:02:27,650 --> 01:02:25,500 you're never going to go back so that's 1417 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:27,660 really when you come to me and you're 1418 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:29,490 that sick you're never gonna get that 1419 01:02:33,710 --> 01:02:31,410 sick again but you really got to get to 1420 01:02:36,620 --> 01:02:33,720 the penthouse of health you can't stop 1421 01:02:39,290 --> 01:02:36,630 can't stop on the second shortcuts now 1422 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:39,300 there are no shortcuts that's it but 1423 01:02:43,970 --> 01:02:41,250 that's a great thing to understand when 1424 01:02:47,210 --> 01:02:43,980 because people are so afraid you know 1425 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:47,220 and after a couple of times they get bit 1426 01:02:51,950 --> 01:02:50,130 they call me up I say you know you still 1427 01:02:54,050 --> 01:02:51,960 got that stuff in yourself yeah okay 1428 01:02:56,450 --> 01:02:54,060 take it call me up in a week 1429 01:02:57,980 --> 01:02:56,460 if there's a problem and you know I 1430 01:02:59,660 --> 01:02:57,990 might hear them from a weak sign 1431 01:03:01,820 --> 01:02:59,670 everything's great everything's fine I 1432 01:03:03,590 --> 01:03:01,830 may not hear back from them until they 1433 01:03:05,660 --> 01:03:03,600 come to see me a year a month late or 1434 01:03:08,210 --> 01:03:05,670 whatever there you go yeah thanks that 1435 01:03:11,630 --> 01:03:08,220 was great not a problem not a problem 1436 01:03:14,540 --> 01:03:11,640 waiting as we're as if you called your 1437 01:03:16,550 --> 01:03:14,550 doctor and said the same thing oh well 1438 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:16,560 you could take a prophylactic dose of 1439 01:03:21,020 --> 01:03:18,690 antibiotics I'm not really sure how 1440 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:21,030 that's working I think that's just a you 1441 01:03:25,220 --> 01:03:22,890 know that's a palliative thing to just 1442 01:03:29,420 --> 01:03:25,230 say okay shut up take this and you know 1443 01:03:31,310 --> 01:03:29,430 leave me alone yeah yeah right and if 1444 01:03:33,890 --> 01:03:31,320 you take a course of antibiotics what 1445 01:03:34,910 --> 01:03:33,900 you've done is you're going back to 1446 01:03:38,090 --> 01:03:34,920 where you shouldn't go 1447 01:03:45,590 --> 01:03:38,100 you're starting to create a resistant 1448 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:45,600 strain of Borrelia oh here's an 1449 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:47,370 interesting thing that's super important 1450 01:03:51,380 --> 01:03:49,170 because one of the things you need and 1451 01:03:54,140 --> 01:03:51,390 one of the things in that process the 1452 01:03:56,090 --> 01:03:54,150 the repair and restore and actually the 1453 01:03:57,890 --> 01:03:56,100 first phase you know where you're 1454 01:04:00,710 --> 01:03:57,900 working with the the infection itself 1455 01:04:03,350 --> 01:04:00,720 and then she commutes is you need the 1456 01:04:05,660 --> 01:04:03,360 energy to do it well guess what these 1457 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:05,670 little mitochondria which is in every 1458 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:08,130 cell of your body it's that little thing 1459 01:04:13,580 --> 01:04:10,650 that creates energy your little ATP 1460 01:04:17,110 --> 01:04:13,590 generator that's a little battery in 1461 01:04:18,770 --> 01:04:17,120 every cell that is an ancient bacteria 1462 01:04:21,020 --> 01:04:18,780 no kidding 1463 01:04:26,450 --> 01:04:21,030 we've formed a symbiotic relationship 1464 01:04:28,730 --> 01:04:26,460 with this as we evolved Wow and and so 1465 01:04:32,180 --> 01:04:28,740 when you take an antibiotic you're 1466 01:04:34,070 --> 01:04:32,190 affecting that mitochondria and we we 1467 01:04:36,260 --> 01:04:34,080 can you know when you're young you have 1468 01:04:39,710 --> 01:04:36,270 a lot of juice you know little kids they 1469 01:04:42,620 --> 01:04:39,720 run you know and then you get around 25 1470 01:04:44,210 --> 01:04:42,630 and you're like and you know that 1471 01:04:46,730 --> 01:04:44,220 mitochondria is starting to mellow out 1472 01:04:49,700 --> 01:04:46,740 let's let's be nothing right it's 1473 01:04:52,730 --> 01:04:49,710 smelling out what they found down yeah 1474 01:04:54,620 --> 01:04:52,740 if you you know go to a nursing home you 1475 01:04:56,330 --> 01:04:54,630 know somebody's acting up they're having 1476 01:04:58,640 --> 01:04:56,340 a bad day they're you know there are a 1477 01:05:03,050 --> 01:04:58,650 lot of reasons why you know people are 1478 01:05:05,180 --> 01:05:03,060 not cooperating you know right such well 1479 01:05:07,970 --> 01:05:05,190 well you could send them out for a psych 1480 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:07,980 evaluation or you can go 1481 01:05:12,650 --> 01:05:10,890 I think this person might have a cold or 1482 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:12,660 a little coffee or something give an 1483 01:05:17,230 --> 01:05:15,090 antibiotic it's much easier to prescribe 1484 01:05:20,390 --> 01:05:17,240 an antibiotic really quick really fast 1485 01:05:23,870 --> 01:05:20,400 you give you give someone in their 70s 1486 01:05:28,700 --> 01:05:23,880 80s or 90s an antibiotic they will go to 1487 01:05:33,500 --> 01:05:28,710 sleep on you in a second it's like it's 1488 01:05:37,580 --> 01:05:33,510 because their mitochondria now becomes 1489 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:37,590 just not even enough to stay awake so we 1490 01:05:42,170 --> 01:05:40,410 know that the damage of antibiotics is 1491 01:05:45,170 --> 01:05:42,180 not just the everybody says oh I took I 1492 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:45,180 took a probiotic well that's really nice 1493 01:05:51,140 --> 01:05:48,810 and of course the gastroenterologist 1494 01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:51,150 they made that concession right because 1495 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:54,000 I can't remember what's your name but 1496 01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:56,570 she did the little yogurt commercial 1497 01:06:04,910 --> 01:05:59,760 uh-huh yeah so she said oh guess what if 1498 01:06:09,260 --> 01:06:04,920 you take this little thing yogurt your 1499 01:06:12,770 --> 01:06:09,270 gut will be great for that she got in 1500 01:06:16,940 --> 01:06:12,780 trouble they pulled the ad guess what 1501 01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:16,950 it's the absolute truth your gut is 60 1502 01:06:22,070 --> 01:06:20,070 70 percent of your immune system and so 1503 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:22,080 it was true and that's those commercials 1504 01:06:25,970 --> 01:06:24,330 you know they came back and said oh it's 1505 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:25,980 just good it's healthy for you and they 1506 01:06:30,109 --> 01:06:27,690 didn't say why anymore they just said oh 1507 01:06:31,790 --> 01:06:30,119 nice it's good for you but then they 1508 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:31,800 came back and they started using that 1509 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:34,050 little that little diagram that has a 1510 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:36,690 little bacteria running around you know 1511 01:06:42,950 --> 01:06:41,250 through through your gut and so yeah so 1512 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:42,960 and they you know so because it's a 1513 01:06:48,590 --> 01:06:46,410 scientific fact if I know it and I've 1514 01:06:50,990 --> 01:06:48,600 known it for 20 years then even the 1515 01:06:54,020 --> 01:06:51,000 worst doctor on the planet has to know 1516 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:54,030 about now it's on the TV so now you go 1517 01:06:58,070 --> 01:06:55,650 to your gastroenterologist and you go 1518 01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:58,080 you know I've got problems and I took an 1519 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:00,240 antibiotic and I have you know gut 1520 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:01,890 problems and they go well take a 1521 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:04,290 probiotic that's that was a couple years 1522 01:07:09,620 --> 01:07:07,770 ago now they're going well take a 1523 01:07:13,940 --> 01:07:09,630 probiotic wow you're taking an 1524 01:07:16,010 --> 01:07:13,950 antibiotic it's it's it's useful it's 1525 01:07:18,530 --> 01:07:16,020 more important afterwards to restore the 1526 01:07:20,299 --> 01:07:18,540 gut right you know and if you don't have 1527 01:07:40,979 --> 01:07:20,309 a 1528 01:07:42,599 --> 01:07:40,989 for you but not every probiotic is the 1529 01:07:44,670 --> 01:07:42,609 right one for you well that's a very 1530 01:07:46,499 --> 01:07:44,680 good point and I know you and I have had 1531 01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:46,509 this discussion before because with 1532 01:07:51,089 --> 01:07:48,160 scleroderma patients they found that 1533 01:07:54,569 --> 01:07:51,099 there's too much acidophilus and too 1534 01:07:57,719 --> 01:07:54,579 much I believe of another got bacteria 1535 01:07:59,699 --> 01:07:57,729 and people who continue to feed that 1536 01:08:02,039 --> 01:07:59,709 acidophilus that's the one they tout the 1537 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:02,049 most in many different probiotic 1538 01:08:06,930 --> 01:08:04,450 products with a misson yogurt or whether 1539 01:08:09,029 --> 01:08:06,940 it's in a pill so scleroderma patients 1540 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:09,039 have to be very knowledgeable about 1541 01:08:13,769 --> 01:08:11,890 their own gut biome and what they're 1542 01:08:16,109 --> 01:08:13,779 trying to do to balance it out so it 1543 01:08:18,149 --> 01:08:16,119 becomes a very complicated situation I 1544 01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:18,159 think that's why practitioner like you 1545 01:08:21,839 --> 01:08:20,710 becomes absolutely so valuable you've 1546 01:08:24,209 --> 01:08:21,849 got to be able to work with somebody 1547 01:08:26,579 --> 01:08:24,219 who's very knowledgeable about all the 1548 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:26,589 different things that can go on in the 1549 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:28,810 gut and how to supplement it properly 1550 01:08:32,370 --> 01:08:30,250 but here's a question you've got a 1551 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:32,380 couple that's a bunch of questions I 1552 01:08:36,079 --> 01:08:33,489 want to get you at least some of them 1553 01:08:38,849 --> 01:08:36,089 because folks wrote in before the show 1554 01:08:40,859 --> 01:08:38,859 this one is actually about the gut I've 1555 01:08:42,180 --> 01:08:40,869 read so much about autoimmune diseases 1556 01:08:46,189 --> 01:08:42,190 starting in the gut 1557 01:08:49,140 --> 01:08:46,199 I have JRA Sjogren's syndrome 1558 01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:49,150 fibromyalgia and now lung disease which 1559 01:08:54,329 --> 01:08:52,000 is the worst thanks to the RA any 1560 01:08:56,339 --> 01:08:54,339 thoughts also what do you think of 1561 01:09:02,870 --> 01:08:56,349 calcium supplements especially those 1562 01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:05,189 yeah the algae went through me let me 1563 01:09:10,729 --> 01:09:08,319 tell you um you know I'm not a real big 1564 01:09:14,370 --> 01:09:10,739 calcium person there's a lot of calcium 1565 01:09:15,870 --> 01:09:14,380 it's kind of ubiquitous in the diet you 1566 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:15,880 know unless you're eating a really poor 1567 01:09:19,879 --> 01:09:17,290 diet but if you're eating a reasonably 1568 01:09:22,979 --> 01:09:19,889 good diet you're getting enough calcium 1569 01:09:24,899 --> 01:09:22,989 so I don't really deal with a lot of 1570 01:09:26,820 --> 01:09:24,909 calcium supplementation there are times 1571 01:09:29,070 --> 01:09:26,830 and there's a certain amount and there's 1572 01:09:30,660 --> 01:09:29,080 a certain kind a lot of these calcium 1573 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:30,670 supplements you'll see says calcium 1574 01:09:33,820 --> 01:09:31,730 carbonate 1575 01:09:36,789 --> 01:09:33,830 well you look at your sheet rock on your 1576 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:36,799 walls that's calcium carbonate oh great 1577 01:09:41,650 --> 01:09:39,410 so you know this is watching you you can 1578 01:09:43,539 --> 01:09:41,660 see four by eight piece of sheet rock 1579 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:43,549 did you have enough calcium carbonate 1580 01:09:53,140 --> 01:09:46,489 for ten years that's all you know 12 1581 01:09:54,700 --> 01:09:53,150 bucks actually it's a magnesium that's a 1582 01:09:56,350 --> 01:09:54,710 lot more important than the calcium but 1583 01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:56,360 for somebody like this who has so many 1584 01:10:00,970 --> 01:09:58,250 different issues she said I know who 1585 01:10:02,530 --> 01:10:00,980 this is and she started out with RA is a 1586 01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:02,540 child they put her on from madness 1587 01:10:08,260 --> 01:10:04,880 amounts of medication the medication 1588 01:10:10,150 --> 01:10:08,270 then created the lung disease and some 1589 01:10:13,810 --> 01:10:10,160 of the other issues she finds herself 1590 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:13,820 facing today so we jumped back to you 1591 01:10:20,140 --> 01:10:16,850 know back in the conversation toxicity 1592 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:20,150 is causing this problem to undo that to 1593 01:10:25,030 --> 01:10:22,370 unravel all these things you have to 1594 01:10:26,830 --> 01:10:25,040 work yourself backwards all right but 1595 01:10:31,030 --> 01:10:26,840 the question about the about the gut 1596 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:31,040 super important two points one is the 1597 01:10:37,270 --> 01:10:33,890 prevalence of acidophilus in slayer 1598 01:10:39,790 --> 01:10:37,280 adharma the acidophilus isn't causing a 1599 01:10:43,750 --> 01:10:39,800 problem what's causing the problem is 1600 01:10:45,970 --> 01:10:43,760 why the acidophilus isn't balanced with 1601 01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:45,980 something else something else right and 1602 01:10:49,450 --> 01:10:48,110 and so you got to track it that way so 1603 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:49,460 some views that we'll just don't take 1604 01:10:53,229 --> 01:10:51,530 acidophilus well guess what you have a 1605 01:10:54,970 --> 01:10:53,239 little bit of acidophilus and you got 1606 01:10:58,060 --> 01:10:54,980 all the time if you look at the 1607 01:11:01,630 --> 01:10:58,070 reproduction rate of bacteria like every 1608 01:11:04,510 --> 01:11:01,640 however many seconds it doubles mmm 1609 01:11:07,270 --> 01:11:04,520 within a minute now that when you know 1610 01:11:10,750 --> 01:11:07,280 when 50 doubles to 100 100 doubles you 1611 01:11:12,610 --> 01:11:10,760 know to 200 within you know minutes you 1612 01:11:14,710 --> 01:11:12,620 know by the time you're ten minutes down 1613 01:11:17,650 --> 01:11:14,720 the road and you just live in a life 24 1614 01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:17,660 hours that bacteria is growing so it's 1615 01:11:23,470 --> 01:11:20,510 not about not taking the bacteria it's 1616 01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:23,480 about controlling it finding what is 1617 01:11:30,190 --> 01:11:26,560 missing in the gut and as far as what's 1618 01:11:33,970 --> 01:11:30,200 the cause of autoimmune disorders or 1619 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:33,980 immune disorders is when the gut becomes 1620 01:11:39,670 --> 01:11:35,930 leaky there's these little microscopic 1621 01:11:41,740 --> 01:11:39,680 villi and there's an enzymes around each 1622 01:11:43,630 --> 01:11:41,750 and every one of those villi so you know 1623 01:11:44,450 --> 01:11:43,640 you eat a steak and the protein gets you 1624 01:11:46,729 --> 01:11:44,460 know kind of broken 1625 01:11:49,310 --> 01:11:46,739 down-and-outs in solution and then it 1626 01:11:53,180 --> 01:11:49,320 hits on these little microscopic fingers 1627 01:11:56,900 --> 01:11:53,190 and the enzymes basically dissolve them 1628 01:11:58,520 --> 01:11:56,910 into a smaller particle you know the 1629 01:12:00,590 --> 01:11:58,530 building blocks of the protein and you 1630 01:12:03,350 --> 01:12:00,600 absorb it now when those fingers get 1631 01:12:06,020 --> 01:12:03,360 damaged from every kind of from 1632 01:12:09,459 --> 01:12:06,030 antibiotics from different kinds of 1633 01:12:14,959 --> 01:12:09,469 medications from poor diet under eating 1634 01:12:16,670 --> 01:12:14,969 overeating not enough water etc the ph 1635 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:16,680 is wrong in your stomach because you 1636 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:19,650 have anxiety and it's changing the ph um 1637 01:12:24,260 --> 01:12:22,530 that particle goes in and there's a 1638 01:12:26,930 --> 01:12:24,270 layer in your gut that basically 1639 01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:26,940 processes all the nutrition that comes 1640 01:12:30,500 --> 01:12:29,489 in okay this is good this is great we're 1641 01:12:33,530 --> 01:12:30,510 going to send to here we're going to use 1642 01:12:36,890 --> 01:12:33,540 this for that but when a particle gets 1643 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:36,900 through that's been undigested your body 1644 01:12:43,430 --> 01:12:40,050 thinks oh that's a virus or that's a 1645 01:12:46,430 --> 01:12:43,440 bacteria or you know that's a yeast and 1646 01:12:50,690 --> 01:12:46,440 it will try and kill it and so it makes 1647 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:50,700 an antigen to that particle now every 1648 01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:52,770 time you eat a steak it's basically like 1649 01:12:59,570 --> 01:12:55,370 you're giving yourself an infection Wow 1650 01:13:02,690 --> 01:12:59,580 and so then your body is now looking at 1651 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:02,700 this molecule as it floats around the 1652 01:13:07,910 --> 01:13:05,250 body and it has antigens to it so it 1653 01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:07,920 starts attacking it now here's a very 1654 01:13:13,729 --> 01:13:11,210 interesting thing you're going to absorb 1655 01:13:16,340 --> 01:13:13,739 you know some of some of that particle 1656 01:13:18,590 --> 01:13:16,350 did get digested and winds up in your 1657 01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:18,600 cell and your immune systems now 1658 01:13:24,020 --> 01:13:21,120 scouring your body for these this 1659 01:13:26,570 --> 01:13:24,030 particle that used to be a used to be a 1660 01:13:28,610 --> 01:13:26,580 cow but it used to be a steak and then 1661 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:28,620 it sees that little particle very 1662 01:13:36,050 --> 01:13:31,890 similar particle inside a cell or around 1663 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:36,060 a cell and it attacks it and now it has 1664 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:39,570 an antigen to the cell as well and so 1665 01:13:44,690 --> 01:13:42,810 it's ah my god so cells and there's 1666 01:13:47,630 --> 01:13:44,700 another mechanism in your body does just 1667 01:13:50,650 --> 01:13:47,640 don't do that it's not good and now the 1668 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:50,660 fight begins and that's the beginning of 1669 01:13:56,450 --> 01:13:53,370 autoimmunity and it's the immune system 1670 01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:56,460 has to be has to be corrupt in some way 1671 01:14:00,460 --> 01:13:57,770 has to have been affected 1672 01:14:04,780 --> 01:14:00,470 has to be you know overwhelmed and it's 1673 01:14:06,580 --> 01:14:04,790 becomes more confused and so we act just 1674 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:06,590 like our immune system do you know if 1675 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:08,330 you get under a lot of stress and you're 1676 01:14:12,370 --> 01:14:10,850 trying to figure out you know which turn 1677 01:14:13,810 --> 01:14:12,380 do I make and you're right in the middle 1678 01:14:15,370 --> 01:14:13,820 of the city and this car is coming at 1679 01:14:19,030 --> 01:14:15,380 you and you go I'm just gonna go 1680 01:14:20,830 --> 01:14:19,040 straight yes you know your immune system 1681 01:14:22,510 --> 01:14:20,840 goes I don't know what to do I'm just 1682 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:22,520 gonna go straight and I'm gonna attack 1683 01:14:31,420 --> 01:14:28,330 that cell because why not because it's 1684 01:14:35,980 --> 01:14:31,430 it's on a mission it's its purpose and 1685 01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:35,990 so they say well yeah that's happening 1686 01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:37,490 so what do you want to do you want to 1687 01:14:42,010 --> 01:14:39,440 suppress the immune system we want to 1688 01:14:44,170 --> 01:14:42,020 shut it down and they've been very 1689 01:14:46,150 --> 01:14:44,180 successful at finding different aspects 1690 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:46,160 of the immune system and shutting it 1691 01:14:51,060 --> 01:14:48,530 down specifically so you get a really 1692 01:14:55,690 --> 01:14:51,070 good result you know with Crohn's or 1693 01:14:59,740 --> 01:14:55,700 with RA but ultimately now what's gonna 1694 01:15:01,150 --> 01:14:59,750 happen you're gonna have other your 1695 01:15:03,340 --> 01:15:01,160 immune system suppressed you can have 1696 01:15:06,580 --> 01:15:03,350 these other infections let's call it the 1697 01:15:08,350 --> 01:15:06,590 co infection of immune diseases because 1698 01:15:09,310 --> 01:15:08,360 your immune systems suppress you know 1699 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:09,320 they always say oh if you have 1700 01:15:13,300 --> 01:15:11,570 tuberculosis or a cold don't start 1701 01:15:15,130 --> 01:15:13,310 taking this well what if you get a cold 1702 01:15:18,370 --> 01:15:15,140 day after you start taking it it's a 1703 01:15:20,290 --> 01:15:18,380 problem and so now this this case starts 1704 01:15:22,210 --> 01:15:20,300 to become more complex because you're 1705 01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:22,220 getting other infections which are 1706 01:15:32,050 --> 01:15:24,290 shutting down different parts of your of 1707 01:15:33,940 --> 01:15:32,060 your matrix not only RA but now we've 1708 01:15:36,270 --> 01:15:33,950 got lung disease to let you know to 1709 01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:36,280 overblown you know the whole situation 1710 01:15:42,700 --> 01:15:40,850 becomes such a serious one it's serious 1711 01:15:44,620 --> 01:15:42,710 begin with but then it becomes very 1712 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:44,630 life-threatening so it kind of makes 1713 01:15:48,790 --> 01:15:46,730 sense again to get to you or protect 1714 01:15:51,010 --> 01:15:48,800 practitioner like you in another city 1715 01:15:52,900 --> 01:15:51,020 who can really help people to step 1716 01:15:54,910 --> 01:15:52,910 through this there is a lot to it and 1717 01:15:57,610 --> 01:15:54,920 that's why I'm always in favor of 1718 01:15:59,560 --> 01:15:57,620 working with somebody and again as a 1719 01:16:01,060 --> 01:15:59,570 partnership so that you can get to the 1720 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:01,070 bottom of it now there's another 1721 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:02,930 question here about dogs that we 1722 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:04,130 discussed the other night two people 1723 01:16:09,220 --> 01:16:06,770 wanted to know do you treat dogs the 1724 01:16:11,140 --> 01:16:09,230 same way that you treat people with lime 1725 01:16:11,620 --> 01:16:11,150 and/or immune disease because dogs are 1726 01:16:16,390 --> 01:16:11,630 getting 1727 01:16:19,660 --> 01:16:16,400 - it's rising exponentially in their 1728 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:19,670 population yep and I don't treat dogs 1729 01:16:25,870 --> 01:16:22,250 it's not within the you know my scope of 1730 01:16:29,050 --> 01:16:25,880 practice but one thing that we know is 1731 01:16:30,700 --> 01:16:29,060 that a simple remedy is this simple 1732 01:16:33,970 --> 01:16:30,710 right is this a great thing 1733 01:16:35,649 --> 01:16:33,980 nano silver which really comes from just 1734 01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:35,659 one company they have the patent on it 1735 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:38,960 but it's marketed you know through many 1736 01:16:45,459 --> 01:16:42,650 many companies nano silver is a particle 1737 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:45,469 that's antimicrobial it basically has a 1738 01:16:51,310 --> 01:16:47,810 charge on it so the thing I was saying 1739 01:16:53,500 --> 01:16:51,320 about the mitochondria it increases the 1740 01:16:55,870 --> 01:16:53,510 frequency in the charge of your cell so 1741 01:16:58,899 --> 01:16:55,880 they become stronger more efficient in 1742 01:17:03,040 --> 01:16:58,909 producing energy and removing toxins and 1743 01:17:06,610 --> 01:17:03,050 and and you know utilizing nutrition but 1744 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:06,620 it also will attach itself to a virus or 1745 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:09,530 bacteria and basically cleave off one of 1746 01:17:15,729 --> 01:17:12,770 the molecules the electrons on and and 1747 01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:15,739 basically destroy that cell and with 1748 01:17:21,820 --> 01:17:18,290 animals you can just spray it in the 1749 01:17:24,370 --> 01:17:21,830 water I I had a person who came to me 1750 01:17:27,700 --> 01:17:24,380 and they were very upset their their cat 1751 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:27,710 was gonna pass away and they were on 1752 01:17:33,459 --> 01:17:29,810 antibiotics nothing was you know just 1753 01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:33,469 really wasn't working and you know busy 1754 01:17:36,820 --> 01:17:35,120 buddy maybe I said well listen I you 1755 01:17:39,910 --> 01:17:36,830 know I know you're not here for your dog 1756 01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:39,920 but get some smart silver just spray it 1757 01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:42,170 in the ball spray it in its mouth you 1758 01:17:45,729 --> 01:17:44,210 know because you can use an antibiotic 1759 01:17:48,910 --> 01:17:45,739 and smart silver together 1760 01:17:51,300 --> 01:17:48,920 I found a nice with myrrh night with 1761 01:17:53,830 --> 01:17:51,310 Marissa and and resistant strains 1762 01:17:56,830 --> 01:17:53,840 Western medicine is now starting to use 1763 01:17:58,899 --> 01:17:56,840 silver in conjunction because it makes 1764 01:18:01,060 --> 01:17:58,909 the antibiotic so much more effective 1765 01:18:04,110 --> 01:18:01,070 which means also that you can use a lot 1766 01:18:07,930 --> 01:18:04,120 less so that toxicity low becomes less 1767 01:18:10,149 --> 01:18:07,940 but for your animal you know for Lyme 1768 01:18:12,450 --> 01:18:10,159 disease whatever your going to give you 1769 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:12,460 know you can even use a homeopathic 1770 01:18:18,220 --> 01:18:15,170 which works on dogs that works um you 1771 01:18:19,899 --> 01:18:18,230 know people - mm-hmm 1772 01:18:22,689 --> 01:18:19,909 you could put that in its water drop 1773 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:22,699 that in its mouth so I would say smart 1774 01:18:27,790 --> 01:18:24,050 silver and a 1775 01:18:29,500 --> 01:18:27,800 of the correct homeopathic remedy for an 1776 01:18:31,690 --> 01:18:29,510 animal would be very very effective 1777 01:18:35,020 --> 01:18:31,700 along with whatever you know your vet 1778 01:18:37,450 --> 01:18:35,030 would you know would recommend yeah you 1779 01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:37,460 know whether it is an antibiotic or if 1780 01:18:44,140 --> 01:18:41,090 you're using a you know a natural you 1781 01:18:48,250 --> 01:18:44,150 know holistic vet you know it was a very 1782 01:18:51,130 --> 01:18:48,260 great combination that sound is 1783 01:18:53,710 --> 01:18:51,140 colloidal silver the same as smart 1784 01:18:55,180 --> 01:18:53,720 silver no colloidal silver is different 1785 01:18:57,610 --> 01:18:55,190 the colloidal silver is a colloidal 1786 01:19:00,040 --> 01:18:57,620 particle of silver that suspended in 1787 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:00,050 water so if you let it sit there it'll 1788 01:19:06,550 --> 01:19:03,890 drop down and in your body it's a it's 1789 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:06,560 it doesn't have the same charge whereas 1790 01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:09,250 the nano silver is actually 1791 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:11,360 electronically attached to a water 1792 01:19:17,230 --> 01:19:14,690 molecule so it's it floats around until 1793 01:19:19,690 --> 01:19:17,240 that water molecule gets out and that's 1794 01:19:21,610 --> 01:19:19,700 why with nano silver you'll see like ten 1795 01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:21,620 parts per million whereas colloidal 1796 01:19:26,620 --> 01:19:24,560 silver you'll see way upwards of that 50 1797 01:19:28,330 --> 01:19:26,630 parts per million or even more because 1798 01:19:29,260 --> 01:19:28,340 you have to use a lot more of it to get 1799 01:19:33,430 --> 01:19:29,270 the same effect 1800 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:33,440 Wow this is just fascinating because the 1801 01:19:38,290 --> 01:19:35,570 nano silver that's nice to know because 1802 01:19:39,700 --> 01:19:38,300 I know so many people that are using the 1803 01:19:41,860 --> 01:19:39,710 colloidal silver would they have 1804 01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:41,870 different things pop up so they're 1805 01:19:45,670 --> 01:19:43,520 really defeating some of it themselves 1806 01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:45,680 because it's not strong enough yeah I 1807 01:19:50,980 --> 01:19:47,090 have some right yeah I always keep some 1808 01:19:53,740 --> 01:19:50,990 on my desk right here because whenever I 1809 01:19:58,060 --> 01:19:53,750 am working with somebody I always break 1810 01:20:01,170 --> 01:19:58,070 my hands like this you know you spray it 1811 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:01,180 in your mouth and interesting enough 1812 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:05,090 pinkeye or irritation your eye eye right 1813 01:20:10,930 --> 01:20:07,210 in your eyes doesn't sting at all that's 1814 01:20:13,420 --> 01:20:10,940 reversal yeah Wow tell you what I always 1815 01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:13,430 have a scratch to what I I can't get rid 1816 01:20:18,370 --> 01:20:15,050 of it I'm gonna against them today 1817 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:18,380 it's yeah and it's so soothing for your 1818 01:20:24,340 --> 01:20:21,650 eyes as well so I like their product and 1819 01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:24,350 so to the you know person they ask that 1820 01:20:37,660 --> 01:20:26,480 question and you can find this online 1821 01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:42,400 it's over yeah yeah yeah it's one of my 1822 01:20:45,820 --> 01:20:43,730 favorite things they try and get 1823 01:20:47,860 --> 01:20:45,830 everyone to go home with it because I 1824 01:20:50,530 --> 01:20:47,870 know if they get a cut if they get a 1825 01:20:52,450 --> 01:20:50,540 scratch if they're getting a cold if you 1826 01:20:54,610 --> 01:20:52,460 get food poisoning you start spraying it 1827 01:20:57,100 --> 01:20:54,620 I send people overseas when they're 1828 01:20:59,140 --> 01:20:57,110 going out of the country it's like you 1829 01:21:01,150 --> 01:20:59,150 better have this you know on the plane 1830 01:21:03,900 --> 01:21:01,160 before you get in the plane when you get 1831 01:21:06,729 --> 01:21:03,910 off the plane um it's great product 1832 01:21:09,689 --> 01:21:06,739 wonderful to know Robert you can't thank 1833 01:21:13,270 --> 01:21:09,699 you enough for coming on the show today 1834 01:21:13,959 --> 01:21:13,280 this has been incredible I so much to 1835 01:21:16,510 --> 01:21:13,969 think about 1836 01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:16,520 again PK did you learn a lot today well 1837 01:21:28,330 --> 01:21:26,330 I certainly did this has been great now 1838 01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:28,340 again thank you everybody for listening 1839 01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:30,650 to our very special presentation you can 1840 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:37,690 find Robert a Botello at www.keytime.com 1841 01:21:42,490 --> 01:21:40,610 his practice is in Florence 1842 01:21:44,740 --> 01:21:42,500 Massachusetts but he is also available 1843 01:21:47,380 --> 01:21:44,750 for phone consults you can find him 1844 01:21:50,740 --> 01:21:47,390 there clearpoint acupuncture calm now 1845 01:21:53,979 --> 01:21:50,750 next week we are gonna have Ned his name 1846 01:21:56,260 --> 01:21:53,989 Nick Nick Redfern is coming back you 1847 01:21:59,459 --> 01:21:56,270 scared me Fernando wait a minute who's 1848 01:22:02,650 --> 01:21:59,469 Ned it's Nick Redfern he's coming back 1849 01:22:04,330 --> 01:22:02,660 talking about Mothman cryptids all the 1850 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:04,340 crazy lovely stuff that we love to talk 1851 01:22:08,350 --> 01:22:06,410 about all the latest you know the 1852 01:22:10,030 --> 01:22:08,360 Mothman sightings are going nuts in 1853 01:22:12,430 --> 01:22:10,040 Chicago we got to hear about it from 1854 01:22:15,340 --> 01:22:12,440 Nick so Nick had to be rescheduled 1855 01:22:17,169 --> 01:22:15,350 because he got horribly sick but he's 1856 01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:17,179 all better now and he's going to join us 1857 01:22:20,740 --> 01:22:17,840 next week 1858 01:22:23,830 --> 01:22:20,750 so until then everybody have a great 1859 01:22:26,500 --> 01:22:23,840 week a great Thanksgiving eat a lot of 1860 01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:26,510 whatever special for you turkey or you 1861 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:29,449 have a good meal and we will see you on 1862 01:22:32,930 --> 01:22:30,890 the blue Highway